Survivor Vanuatu

[Carnage]

He really rivals, Richard Hatch and Brian from Thailand as best players ever.

I didn't really think Brian was that good of a player. seems more he cashed in on being put up against a bunch of sheep.

[Wildfire]

I didn't really think Brian was that good of a player. seems more he cashed in on being put up against a bunch of sheep.

Well granted yes, his tribemates were exceptionally stupid, but Brian was a mastermind, manipulating the others like his little puppets. Plus, he never got voted for once all season (except in the final obviously), he's what Ami tried to be this year and couldn't be. He lied, made friends, controlled every booting and did it all with breeze, and a straight face. To steal Helen's quote, "he really was the epitome of a used car salesman" and played the saps, fed them lines, and then sold them up the river.

An exceptional player in a poor season, would have liked to see what he could have done with harder competition although.

[Carnage]

An exceptional player in a poor season, would have liked to see what he could have done with harder competition although.

He would have been crushed on all stars.

He wouldn't be the only person who when put on all stars and had to go up against better players end up failing. Just look at Rob C, and Rupert. Without people weaker then them they couldn't get anywhere.

[Wildfire]

He would have been crushed on all stars.

He wouldn't be the only person who when put on all stars and had to go up against better players end up failing. Just look at Rob C, and Rupert. Without people weaker then them they couldn't get anywhere.

"He would have been crushed on all stars" by whom? What the fab final three of Amber, Rob, and Jenna? That's pretty ridiculous.
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Amber who was 6th in Outback
Jenna who was 8th in Borneo
Rob who was 9th in Marquesas

The fact that these three ended up at the end of All Stars, wasn't due to their superiority, but more their acknowledging their inferiority and voting off all past winners ASAP. I don't blame them I would have too in their position. The name of the game, is you appear a threat, you have success, you get voted off.
Nonetheless, none of them were great at all, and sure Rob did very well at the challenges at all stars, but so did Brian in Thailand, he was a college quarterback, just as althetic if not more.

The examples you mention (Rupert and Rob C.), you mention, didn't win, but they were seen as threats from the get-go. Rupert because of his popularity from Pearl Islands the year before, and Rob C. because he was noted to be a great player, with Mark Burnett and Jeff Probst themselves, proclaming him to be the "greatest survivor player ever not to win" before the show began. With a moniker like that, people aren't stupid, he was a threat right away.

On a related note, Brian didn't participate in All Stars because he refused to participate again, because he expected to be paid to play.

[Carnage]

Should have worded it differently.

He simply wouldn't have been able to manipulate people in the same way. And likewise for the reasons you mentioned he'd get taken out as a threat.

True Rob C lost because he couldn't fly under the radar anymore.

But Rupert I think showed himself to be a player who just bullied his way though his first season. He showed it in all stars that he wasn't that good of a survivor. The making them dig their shelter into the ground comes to mind.

[Rometiklan]

But Rupert I think showed himself to be a player who just bullied his way though his first season. He showed it in all stars that he wasn't that good of a survivor. The making them dig their shelter into the ground comes to mind.

I liked Rupert, but I suspect they edited the footage to place him in the most favourable light. From what I saw of him, he was a bit of a bully who intimidated everyone into not voting for him. He had some strong redeeming assests (hard worker, strong in challenges, caught the fish), so most people wouldn't vote for him anyways. But if one of them ever did, I bet he went ballistic on them. And there is no doubt in my mind that the fan voting at the end of All-Stars was to reward Rupert. A lot of people wanted Rupert to win the million, but when that wasn't possible, they contrived the fan voting to ensure he got his million.

[gosamburu]

He really rivals, Richard Hatch and Brian from Thailand as best players ever.

He did overcome alot at the end of the game, but he certainly isn't in Hatch/Brian's league. The fact that he got rid of john k instead of one of the girls, and voluntarily went into the merge a minority was a BIGGGG mistake. I can't see Hatch or Brian ever allowing that to happen.

[Carnage]

But if one of them ever did, I bet he went ballistic on them.

Like Johnny Fairplay. He voted for him and Rupert went crazy screaming who voted for me?!?

I mean suck it up, it's a game, people are supposed to vote for you. when you're a physical threat your going to get votes.

But what really bugged me about that is that he's a hypocrite. He spent so long whining about being the fat kid growing up, and getting picked on. Then he turns around and bullies people himself.

[Wildfire]

Source: People Magazine 12.15.05

Jeff Probst has had many adventures as host of Survivor, such as hacking out of the Vanuatu brush, skydiving over the California desert and zooming into this season's finale on a big hog (motorcycle, that is). So who knew the biggest adventure for Probst would be embracing a new love?

Probst, 43, and Survivor: Vanuatu's fifth finalist, Julie Berry, who turned 24 Wednesday, are a couple.

"Nobody is more surprised than me that I could find my love affair on a show that I host," Probst tells PEOPLE, "but the truth is when something like this gets dropped in your lap, you don't look at how it's wrapped, you don't look at how it's being delivered. You just put your arms around it and you hold on because this is my love affair and there's no question in my mind about it."

Rumors of a relationship started among viewers who noticed Berry sporting a dabbed-on heart tattoo with "Jeff" scrawled on it during one episode. "That was just harmless fun," Berry told the Portland Press Herald.

Probst concurs. "The funny thing was there was this perception we were flirting on the show," he says, "and that was actually just fun stuff on the show. I didn't really talk to Julie until long after the show was over."

After production on Vanuatu wrapped over the summer, Probst says he e-mailed Berry just to say hello. "Once we started spending some time together, I didn't have any doubt. I didn't have any doubt and all the questions about how you meet and any potential obstacles, they fade away like an old dry leaf."

Happily, Probst adds, "I'm in love. I'm with her. I'm with her family, and there ain't no turning back. When you find it, you know and now I get it. The funniest thing is people used to always say, 'you'll know,' and I'd think, 'Oh, shut it! Let me tell ya, I've been around long enough, I don't know.' And then suddenly one day, I knew. Now I am one of those irritating people that is now saying, 'you'll know.'"

Berry, a youth mentor from Gorham, Maine, is moving to California to pursue her master's degree in family counseling. Probst is in Los Angeles, having returned from shooting the 10th season of the series, Survivor: Palau.

Probst was married to psychotherapist Shelley Wright from 1996 until 2001

No wonder Julie got sooo much facetime on the reunion show and she had that heart tattoo of Jeff's name on her chest.

[felix]

No way. Really??? What a lucky girl! Jeff is definitely one of the hottest show hosts out there Well, at least compared to Phil of Amazing Race which people said was hot.

Wow ... another old guy and young girl couple. This one is 19 years apart! hmm ... still doesn't beat the 25 year or so age gap with Celine Dion and her manager Renee.

[McLaren]

No way. Really??? What a lucky girl! Jeff is definitely one of the hottest show hosts out there Well, at least compared to Phil of Amazing Race which people said was hot.

I hope you are a girl, cuz thats a pretty gay statement.

[YLSF]

haha.. I just read that thing about Jeff and Julie hooking up...

Julie was pretty hot.. I guess this probably rules out any appearance of her in Playboy for a while

[Carnage]

I guess this probably rules out any appearance of her in Playboy for a while

But isn't it everyone's dream to date a playmate.

[shadowfighta]

I just saw a girl who looked like Julie... but shorter and lighter skin.