Sympatico High Speed Dry Loop for 7mb/1mb, 60GB cap = 26.95, modem inc, NO CONTRACT

[lorax1284]

It's probably $2 per gigabyte over 60.

So, if you download 80 gig one month, it's an extra $20. If you only download 40 gig one month, you don't get $20 back.

Do NOT accept a 60 gig cap: that is too low for anything but simple email and Web surfing: just downloading trial software can cost dozens or hundreds of megabytes.

Teksavvy will give you DSL high speed with 200 gig download on a dry loop for about $40 per month.

As someone said earlier in this thread: don't feed the beast.

EDIT: I no good math: 20 gig over your cap is $40! That's more than the monthly charge INCLUDING the 60 GIG throughput: how do they justify charging EXTRA per gig over the included amount!? At that point it should be economies of scale and the cost should be less per gig!

[bubble.tea]

^ LOL...let's lobby for ROLLOVER bandwidth!!!!!

[NG]

Bought my own for around $60 after tax.

http://pricecanada.com/detail.php?pr...4876&sku=TN516

Every once and awhile someone will post them for around $25 here - however i didnt' realize you had to do configuration yourself - DSL modems aren't "plug n play"?

Rogers, Telus or any other company could kick kittens into a blender and I'd still have no problem choosing them over Bell; Bell is by far the worst company I've ever dealt with. Bell rather spend their money in some horribly-produced ads than to actually make their services worth a damn.

+1 Sure people complain on the internet but the amount of horror stories about Bell is obscene - even the mainstream press picks up something now and again like a few weeks ago where Bell was charging hundreds of thosands in fees to people who were victims of voice mail hacking.

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[pipegrep]

+1 f bell. I had the same billing problems. They kept sneaking extra charges on. Calling their support when their service is down is like clapping with one hand.

[fourtwenty]

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. "Most LIKELY" your internet will work just fine, and you will be billed the exact correct amount.

The Internet is a place where people go to complain about things. Not just this, but every device. You're not going to get anywhere near a "fair" comparison as most people don't go around posting how great their service is, how great this or that is... People don't say anything when the billing and internet is fine, well, because they expect it to be that way.

/Rant.

Let me be the first to say that I'm with Bell Sympatico. I download about 100 Gigs a month. The service is great. No down times. No Billing errors. Service exactly as it should be.

I also had billing problems and it took 5 months before they stopped over charging. I have 2 friends that it happened to as well. Who knows how many others are overpaying and just too lazy to do anything about it, which is what Bell is counting on.

I've been with Teksavvy over a year now (on dryloop, have VOIP) and it's exactly what i need. The less business people send to bell, the better as far as I'm concerned.

Edit:BTW, there are many people posting that Teksavvy is great, so that blows your whole "people don't say anything when the billing and internet is fine" theory...

Also, are you paying their full price, or did you negotiate a discount? The problems with billing seem to be for those that negotiate a lower than advertised rate. Bell ignores this hoping those people will forget or get tired of calling for the price adjustment every month.

[bestjsg]

just a newbie question....what exactly is Dry Loop means ? from what I gathered so far, it means no home phone line but just using the phone jacks for internet, but does that mean any home phone or Bell home phone in particular ? ..

[happy4uall]

DO NOT GO WITH SYMPATICO, they will tell you is is 34.95 and billing errors will drive you crazy, one month they charge 49.95 and I call and they fix it and then the following month they tack in $5 charges...endless waste of time. Go with Techsavvy..

EXACTLY SAME THING happened with me...Will be changing to TS or Acanac once contract ends on March 15...can't wait....Bell s*cks..

[demonizer]

lol, never believe what bell CSR's says. A family member called them about a problem with our home phone and at the end of the call, our internet went from unlimited to a 60GB capped service. Good thing I was home and made a call back to undo anything that was changed in the account.

[bubble.tea]

just a newbie question....what exactly is Dry Loop means ? from what I gathered so far, it means no home phone line but just using the phone jacks for internet, but does that mean any home phone or Bell home phone in particular ? ..

Ask...and you shall receive.


FWIW, I was with Bellus for 3yrs...negotiated a stupendous retention deal. Kept my pricing down, kept my unlimited bandwidth for YEARS....no problems.

Finally pissed off the wrong asswipe agent who was chewing his gum like a cow in my ears, and zap, next day while checking my account online, the bandwidth was gone and put on 60Gb. Friggin RUNT. Lesson learned. Suck it up. I've been fighting for ~6months now to get the unlim bandwidth reinstated LOL...

[junkmail2002]

just a newbie question....what exactly is Dry Loop means ? from what I gathered so far, it means no home phone line but just using the phone jacks for internet, but does that mean any home phone or Bell home phone in particular ? ..

It means no phone service on the line. If you have regular POTS telephone service, even if it is with another company such as Primus (unless you are on Primus' DSLAM, but ignore this statement unless you live downtown Toronto), you will be going through Bell's equipment - which means that you can get regular DSL.

If you don't have traditional phone service, then Bell needs to provision a 'DRY' loop which means that they have to keep the line alive even though there is no phone service. For this, you or the DSL company have to pay a fee to Bell... That's why DRY DSL costs more. However if you set yourself up with a VoIP service, you should be able to more than offset the cost of the DRY LOOP

[bestjsg]

Ask...and you shall receive.


FWIW, I was with Bellus for 3yrs...negotiated a stupendous retention deal. Kept my pricing down, kept my unlimited bandwidth for YEARS....no problems.

Finally pissed off the wrong asswipe agent who was chewing his gum like a cow in my ears, and zap, next day while checking my account online, the bandwidth was gone and put on 60Gb. Friggin RUNT. Lesson learned. Suck it up. I've been fighting for ~6months now to get the unlim bandwidth reinstated LOL...

I love that link thanks..! learning something new everyday..

[bubble.tea]

... That's why DRY DSL costs more....

huh? I've been on dry loop since '05 Jan'ish or whenever it was finally made available by Bell. Same price as if I had a tel line with them.

[junkmail2002]

huh? I've been on dry loop since '05 Jan'ish or whenever it was finally made available by Bell. Same price as if I had a tel line with them.

Bell may eat the cost for their customers or you negotiated a good deal and noone caught on. But why would you get DRY DSL service from BELL?!? The whole point is to ascend from the ninth circle of bELL.

Do you have regular phone service with any carrier?

[SPARTACVS]

Buying anything from Bell helps to feed the beast.

Bell is average but sympatico is terrible. Never saw such a messy company. I will NEVER be again one of their client.

[Sinoed]

DO NOT GO WITH SYMPATICO, they will tell you is is 34.95 and billing errors will drive you crazy, one month they charge 49.95 and I call and they fix it and then the following month they tack in $5 charges...endless waste of time. Go with Techsavvy..

+1! I am so frustrated with Bell right now.. This has happened to me I don't know how many times! Every time I'm supposed to get a promo rate I never get it, they overcharge and I have to spend umpteen hours on the phone arguing with useless CSR's who always ask for something I'm never given. I learned the hard way, always get the name and operator ID and a confirmation number. Write it down because you'll need it later when you have to call back. Be firm and if you get nowhere ask to speak to the manager. I'm going to be soo happy to leave Bell when my current promo is up.