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TD e-Series funds Megathread (Post all your questions here)

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fasacrifice wrote:
Jun 13th, 2017 3:20 pm
Hi All,

I just decided to open TD Direct Inverstment account and read through the thread about 40 pages and learned a lot already. I just need to confirm few points.

I have a chequing account and credit card with TD and also Mutual Fund RRSP and High Interest TFSA.

I'd like to switch both RRSP and TFSA (total value is about $25k) to Direct Investment account. The reason I wanna do that rather than e-series is that I have stock option at my company and will buy some stock soon. Here are my questions;

1) Can I buy and sell stocks with either account with TD Direct Invest?
2) I still don't understand what DRIP exactly is. Any simple defination for it and hot it works?
3) I just made an appoinment with a branch and will do the conversion. During this appoinment can I choose to transfer the money as cash and then do the portfolio myself later on?
4) I think I can keep money as cash on those accounts. Any limitation on this? Any interest accumulates on the cash amount?
1- yes

2- MFs pay distributions that can be monthly or annually. DRIP means that the diatributions will be used automatically to buy the same Mutual fund that is paying it.

3- Your direct investing account will not be opened on the spot, it take few days as far as i know. Once the account openning is complete you can transfer money directly from your TFSA/RRSP to their corresponding direct investing account and build your own portfolio

4- you can keep money as cash no problem. As for interest i am not sure since i leave minimum cash.

Just make sure you have at least 25k in total in both accounts to avoid the maintenance fees

Cheers
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ShuttleBoy wrote:
Jun 13th, 2017 4:21 pm
1- yes

2- MFs pay distributions that can be monthly or annually. DRIP means that the diatributions will be used automatically to buy the same Mutual fund that is paying it.

3- Your direct investing account will not be opened on the spot, it take few days as far as i know. Once the account openning is complete you can transfer money directly from your TFSA/RRSP to their corresponding direct investing account and build your own portfolio

4- you can keep money as cash no problem. As for interest i am not sure since i leave minimum cash.

Just make sure you have at least 25k in total in both accounts to avoid the maintenance fees

Cheers
Thanks a lot. I thought that I need only $15k minimum to waive to fees. Is it $25k

And also after opening RRSP/TFSA Direct Investment account, I'll have 4 accounts? I thought they will switch my current accounts
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fasacrifice wrote:
Jun 13th, 2017 4:23 pm
Thanks a lot. I thought that I need only $15k minimum to waive to fees. Is it $25k

And also after opening RRSP/TFSA Direct Investment account, I'll have 4 accounts? I thought they will switch my current accounts
I believe it is now $15,000 in "household assets" with TD OR minimum $100 monthly pre-authorized purchase/contribution to waive the quarterly fees.
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Octavius wrote:
Jun 13th, 2017 11:45 pm
I believe it is now $15,000 in "household assets" with TD OR minimum $100 monthly pre-authorized purchase/contribution to waive the quarterly fees.
Correct.

Maintenance Fees are listed on pages 5 and 6 in the pdf brochure

TD Direct Investing
Commission Schedule
and Statement of
Disclosure of Rates
and Fees

https://www.td.com/ca/document/PDF/forms/521778.pdf
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fasacrifice wrote:
Jun 13th, 2017 3:20 pm

4) I think I can keep money as cash on those accounts. Any limitation on this? Any interest accumulates on the cash amount?
...most would recommend purchasing TDB8150 --> read this thread at CMF.

It currently pays .75%, and I believe the minimum purchase is $100
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fasacrifice wrote:
Jun 13th, 2017 4:23 pm
Thanks a lot. I thought that I need only $15k minimum to waive to fees. Is it $25k

And also after opening RRSP/TFSA Direct Investment account, I'll have 4 accounts? I thought they will switch my current accounts
Sorry thats correct, 15k is the minimum

Yea you will still have 4 accounts unless you decide to close the non investment ones
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Octavius wrote:
Jun 13th, 2017 11:45 pm
I believe it is now $15,000 in "household assets" with TD OR minimum $100 monthly pre-authorized purchase/contribution to waive the quarterly fees.
Stryker wrote:
Jun 14th, 2017 3:20 am
Correct.

Maintenance Fees are listed on pages 5 and 6 in the pdf brochure

TD Direct Investing
Commission Schedule
and Statement of
Disclosure of Rates
and Fees

https://www.td.com/ca/document/PDF/forms/521778.pdf
For the $100 monthly pre-authorized contribution....can it literally just be $100 going into the account, or do they require the purchasing of funds as well to qualify?

From that document it seems like it can be either...but doesn't necessarily need to be both.
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fasacrifice wrote:
Jun 13th, 2017 3:20 pm
Hi All,

I just decided to open TD Direct Inverstment account and read through the thread about 40 pages and learned a lot already. I just need to confirm few points.

I have a chequing account and credit card with TD and also Mutual Fund RRSP and High Interest TFSA.

I'd like to switch both RRSP and TFSA (total value is about $25k) to Direct Investment account. The reason I wanna do that rather than e-series is that I have stock option at my company and will buy some stock soon. Here are my questions;

1) Can I buy and sell stocks with either account with TD Direct Invest?
2) I still don't understand what DRIP exactly is. Any simple defination for it and hot it works?
3) I just made an appoinment with a branch and will do the conversion. During this appoinment can I choose to transfer the money as cash and then do the portfolio myself later on?
4) I think I can keep money as cash on those accounts. Any limitation on this? Any interest accumulates on the cash amount?
Thanks to all. Just converted my acoounts to TD Direct Invesment. It was simple and straight forward. The guy knew what he was doing.

I can keep money in those accounts as cash. My RRSP funds will be transferred as it is and TFSA will be transferred as cash then I can do my own allocation.

He also suggested that I open Cash TDDI but since I have lots of room in my RRSP and TFSA, I didn't do that. I wanna keep things simpler since I just started investing on these things. He also suggested USD accounts too for RRSP and TFSA but again didn't want that either.

And also as you guys confirmed, I need min $15k to wave the fees.

The RRSP account will be conveted to TDDI and old one will be closed. For TFSA, the old one remain open and I can close it later on.

What I'm thinking is that I'll be chosing Aggressive Portfolio on my RRSP since I won't use this money any time soon and still have little money on that account. I just used the money in that account for HBP about 2 years ago and just started to repay this year. I'm thinking to pay the minimum HBP payment for a while.

I'll be Balanced on my TFSA account since this my emergncy fund and most of my savings will go to this account. I'll get into stock and other stuff later on after learing more. What do you guys think? Any other suggestions?

And also I set up preauthorized payments to my RRSP every month but the guy said it'll stay there as cash then I need to do my own allocation. Is there a way that I can do that allocation automated too?
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Jun 16, 2017
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Hi all,

I've had money in td e series for about 5 years now. They have really gone up in last year. US one is up 44%. I'm thinking of selling ALL of my td eseries. I will have profited about $17000. Then I will wait a few months to a year and either buy a condo in Toronto (if they go down) or buy e series again (if they go down). I feel like they are really high now and will go down a lot, but that is just a guess.

So my questions are

1. Do I just click on the sell button on all my e series index funds to get money back?
2. Will I be charged anything for selling my funds? Are all transactions free, as long as it's not a fund I bought within 30 days?

Thanks for all your help. This is my first post here. Always lurked. Found out about td e series through this site so thanks a bunch!
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greg543 wrote:
Jun 17th, 2017 1:23 pm
Hi all,

I've had money in td e series for about 5 years now. They have really gone up in last year. US one is up 44%. I'm thinking of selling ALL of my td eseries. I will have profited about $17000. Then I will wait a few months to a year and either buy a condo in Toronto (if they go down) or buy e series again (if they go down). I feel like they are really high now and will go down a lot, but that is just a guess.

So my questions are

1. Do I just click on the sell button on all my e series index funds to get money back?
2. Will I be charged anything for selling my funds? Are all transactions free, as long as it's not a fund I bought within 30 days?

Thanks for all your help. This is my first post here. Always lurked. Found out about td e series through this site so thanks a bunch!
TD e-Series are a buy and hold type of index fund. They are not meant for "market timing".

If you want to cash out, then yes all you do is click sell. You will not be charged anything provided it has been more than 30 days since the newest funds were added.
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So I recently transferred approximately 27k to a TDDI LIRA and went with a Assertive CCP model portfolio (25% to each of the 4 TD e-series securities) and after 1 month its already down $800. Each of the securities is losing making my personal rate of return -2.62% so far.

Unless I not understanding something, how exactly does one just put money into the e-series and sit and forget about it, when its seems to be headed in a downward trend. In other words, how are people people 8% rate of return on these 4 securities year to year?

Am I doing something wrong?
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yellowlight18 wrote:
Jul 9th, 2017 1:48 pm
So I recently transferred approximately 27k to a TDDI LIRA and went with a Assertive CCP model portfolio (25% to each of the 4 TD e-series securities) and after 1 month its already down $800. Each of the securities is losing making my personal rate of return -2.62% so far.

Unless I not understanding something, how exactly does one just put money into the e-series and sit and forget about it, when its seems to be headed in a downward trend. In other words, how are people people 8% rate of return on these 4 securities year to year?

Am I doing something wrong?
The 8% average return is averaged over the long-term (think in terms of the past 30 years). In any given year, your rate of return can range from -40% to +40% (insert any arbitrary number here). The thing is, you will not get the long-term average unless you invest over the long-term through the good and BAD years. There's no way to avoid the down swings unfortunately, so you just have to set it and forget it.
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yellowlight18 wrote:
Jul 9th, 2017 1:48 pm
So I recently transferred approximately 27k to a TDDI LIRA and went with a Assertive CCP model portfolio (25% to each of the 4 TD e-series securities) and after 1 month its already down $800. Each of the securities is losing making my personal rate of return -2.62% so far.

Unless I not understanding something, how exactly does one just put money into the e-series and sit and forget about it, when its seems to be headed in a downward trend. In other words, how are people people 8% rate of return on these 4 securities year to year?

Am I doing something wrong?
It is helpful to look at history to understand how the stock market recovers from corrections and bear markets:

May 1946 to May 1947. Stocks plunge 28.4%.
June 1948 to June 1949. Stocks decline 20.6%.
June 1950 to July 1950. Stocks fall 14%.
July 1957 to October 1957. Stocks fall 20.7%.
January 1962 to June 1962. Stocks plunge 26.4%
February 1966 to October 1966. Stocks fall 22.2%.
November 1968 to May 1970. Stocks plunge 36.1%.
April 1973 to October 1974. Stocks plunge 48%
September 1976 to March 1978. Stocks fall 19.4%.
February 1980 to March 1980. Stocks fall 17.1%.
November 1980 to August 1982. Stocks fall 27.1%.
August 1987 to December 1987. Stocks fall 33.5%.
July 1990 to October 1990. Stocks fall 19.9%.
July 1998 to August 1998. Stocks fall 19.3%.
March 2000 to October 2002. Stocks plummet 49.1%.
November 2002 to March 2003. Stocks fall 14.7%
October 2007 to March 2009. Stocks plummet 56.8%.
April 2011 to October 2011. Stocks fall 19.4%.
June 2015 to August 2015. Stocks fall 11.9%

Stocks gained +1,100-fold during this 70-year period.
Source: https://www.fool.com/investing/general/ ... s-per.aspx

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