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Telus New 2 year plans with unlimited talk + Text and limited DATA

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I'm guessing these new plans come with a free* bottle of Vaseline to ease the pain.

*vaseline is amortized over 2-year term
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Another good reason to use my local home line at 25$/mo and my pay as you go +data at 10$/mo.

These price are ridiculous!
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u0dcameron wrote:
Jul 16th, 2013 7:51 am
I hope I have no problems renewing my plan when the time comes...

350 Minutes Shared
Unlim Text
6 GB Data
All the other goodies like CD/VM for 57+ Tax
According to Telus, you won't be able to retain your current plan. This is a quote from the e-mail inquiry I had about the CRTC changes and how it'll affect plans upon renewal.

"TELUS will be aligning with the CRTC change. Starting now, all contracts signed with TELUS will be 2 year terms, and there will no longer be the option to sign a 3 year term. All of our rate plans will be changed to align with the new 2 year contracts, and at the time of you re signing your term, you will be given your rate plan options according to what is in market. The cost of phones will only increase between $0.00-$30.00."
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Mmagic76 wrote:
Jul 16th, 2013 8:38 am
According to Telus, you won't be able to retain your current plan. This is a quote from the e-mail inquiry I had about the CRTC changes and how it'll affect plans upon renewal.

"TELUS will be aligning with the CRTC change. Starting now, all contracts signed with TELUS will be 2 year terms, and there will no longer be the option to sign a 3 year term. All of our rate plans will be changed to align with the new 2 year contracts, and at the time of you re signing your term, you will be given your rate plan options according to what is in market. The cost of phones will only increase between $0.00-$30.00."
The best option might just be to buy your phone outright and then keep your current contract on a month to month. I don't believe they can increase your monthly cost if you just go month to month. You may also qualify for a 10% discount or $10 if you BYOD.
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getro wrote:
Jul 16th, 2013 9:02 am
The best option might just be to buy your phone outright and then keep your current contract on a month to month. I don't believe they can increase your monthly cost if you just go month to month. You may also qualify for a 10% discount or $10 if you BYOD.
I still have two years left on my contract (500 mins, unlimited SMS, CD/VM, 5 GB of data, FAV 10, evening and weekends starting at 5 pm for 50$). Guess this will be my last time I sign for a contract. Next time will be a month to month and BYOD...
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wilsonlam97 wrote:
Jul 16th, 2013 1:41 am
lol $150/month for unlimited talk and 6GB of data.

What a joke.
Thats 3 times of my plan now! Way too much if this gonna happen. Lets say 3 years contract on 50$= $1800 on a 2 years contract $150 = $3600 plus the phone e.g. iphone now is 179 on 2 years will be 299 for 16b 32gb 399 64gb 449.big 3 will earn more money on the new 2 yrs plan.
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Let's compare these plans in REAL TERMS. No one here seems to be able to do math correctly.

A few assumptions:
1) Assuming no retention plans, we use comparable plans as stated on the website.
2) Assume a real world cell phone usage period of 6 years (can be split into segments of 2 years or 3 years and is long enough to see the effects)
3) Assume a *modest* increase in initial cell phone cost, say from $199 to $299 initially. (Telus has already stated that they will modestly increase initial phone prices)
4) Assume we get the latest and least expensive iPhone as subsidized phones per contract renewal.
5) Assume no month-to-month and always renew at the end of previous contract.
6) All numbers are inclusive of tax (HST - ONTARIO).

Telus OLD plans have a good talk/text/data plan with 6GB of data will be $100 + tax = $113 per month
Telus NEW plans have a good talk/text/data plan is with 6GB of data will be $155 + tax = $175.15 per month

6 years = 72 months
Telus OLD plans = 72 months * $113 = $8136
Telus NEW plans = 72 months * $175.15 = $12610.80 (lol)

6 years = 2 new phones on OLD plans (or) 3 new phones on NEW plans
Assume 2 new iPhones on OLD plans = $199 * 2 + tax = $449.74
Assume 3 new iPhones on NEW plans = $299 * 3 + tax = $1013.61


TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP AND SERVICE PER 6 YEARS ON TELUS:

Telus OLD PLAN: Wireless Service ($8136) + Initial Phone Prices ($449.74) = $8585.74

Telus NEW PLAN: Wireless Service ($12610.80) + Initial Phone Prices ($1013.61) = $13624.41

Difference of cost for ownership per 6 years = $13624.41 - $8585.74 = $5038.67
Percentage of increase in prices based on OLD plan = $5038.67 / $8585.74 * 100 = 58.69%


Assume new unlocked iPhone's with 16GB of data cost $699 + tax = $789.87, then the increase of $5038.67 can purchase an additional 6.38 iPhones per 6 year period.

So.... you get one extra phone for the 2 year contract over a 6 year period. But with the money you save from the OLD 3-year contracts you could have bought an additional 6.38 UNLOCKED iPhones. LoL.
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@ Anikiri, you're math makes sense, however you didnt include the real life factors such as lost/stolen phones, change in consumer preferences, rate changes, resale of old phone etc. I always sell my old phone and it pays off my new one.

There's no way that the new rate plans will stay at where they are, I consider this a transition period, rates will go down to normal levels once they realize no one is buying into their scam
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^^ This is Verizon price structure. Plans are basically built to maintain revenue, since overages will be reduced due to new caps. Overages = Profit.
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discontd wrote:
Jul 16th, 2013 10:41 am
@ Anikiri, you're math makes sense, however you didnt include the real life factors such as lost/stolen phones, change in consumer preferences, rate changes, resale of old phone etc. I always sell my old phone and it pays off my new one.

There's no way that the new rate plans will stay at where they are, I consider this a transition period, rates will go down to normal levels once they realize no one is buying into their scam
I see what you are saying but there is no way for me to filter in those variables. But I will point out that with an excess of just over $5000.... I am sure all those variables could not possibly make up that amount. I mean we're talking about buying 6.38 new top line phones for the difference in cost.
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Anikiri wrote:
Jul 16th, 2013 9:44 am
Let's compare these plans in REAL TERMS. No one here seems to be able to do math correctly.

A few assumptions:
1) Assuming no retention plans, we use comparable plans as stated on the website.
2) Assume a real world cell phone usage period of 6 years (can be split into segments of 2 years or 3 years and is long enough to see the effects)
3) Assume a *modest* increase in initial cell phone cost, say from $199 to $299 initially. (Telus has already stated that they will modestly increase initial phone prices)
4) Assume we get the latest and least expensive iPhone as subsidized phones per contract renewal.
5) Assume no month-to-month and always renew at the end of previous contract.
6) All numbers are inclusive of tax (HST - ONTARIO).

Telus OLD plans have a good talk/text/data plan with 6GB of data will be $100 + tax = $113 per month
Telus NEW plans have a good talk/text/data plan is with 6GB of data will be $155 + tax = $175.15 per month

6 years = 72 months
Telus OLD plans = 72 months * $113 = $8136
Telus NEW plans = 72 months * $175.15 = $12610.80 (lol)

6 years = 2 new phones on OLD plans (or) 3 new phones on NEW plans
Assume 2 new iPhones on OLD plans = $199 * 2 + tax = $449.74
Assume 3 new iPhones on NEW plans = $299 * 3 + tax = $1013.61


TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP AND SERVICE PER 6 YEARS ON TELUS:

Telus OLD PLAN: Wireless Service ($8136) + Initial Phone Prices ($449.74) = $8585.74

Telus NEW PLAN: Wireless Service ($12610.80) + Initial Phone Prices ($1013.61) = $13624.41

Difference of cost for ownership per 6 years = $13624.41 - $8585.74 = $5038.67
Percentage of increase in prices based on OLD plan = $5038.67 / $8585.74 * 100 = 58.69%


Assume new unlocked iPhone's with 16GB of data cost $699 + tax = $789.87, then the increase of $5038.67 can purchase an additional 6.38 iPhones per 6 year period.

So.... you get one extra phone for the 2 year contract over a 6 year period. But with the money you save from the OLD 3-year contracts you could have bought an additional 6.38 UNLOCKED iPhones. LoL.
I pay $75 a month for the 6gb plan, which was a normal plan when the iphone 5 came out. No way in hell I am ever signing another contract
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Not one comment about the data prices being for shared access?

Sure these prices are outrageous for a single user but what about a family of 4 or 5 users? I'd like to see an apples to apples comparison of the costs for 2 years Wind vs Telus with 5 new iPhone 5's. I think 3GB of data (or less) should be sufficient. Caller ID, VM, unlimited nation-wide calling and unlimited texting are included with Telus so the same should be in the Wind plan. Some amount of out of Wind zone usage should be included.

I'm with Rogers right now on a 5-member family plan. I might be convinced to switch.
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