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[The Bay] Breville BES870XL Barista Express Espresso Machine $499.99 PM @BB $473

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[The Bay] Breville BES870XL Barista Express Espresso Machine $499.99 PM @BB $473

This popular espresso machine is on sale again and you can even PM @BB for $473

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$499.99 at The Bay

$779.99 at Best Buy so PM down to $473
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Mar 26, 2004
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Good deal, have had this for a few months and love it.
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I highly recommend waiting for the 840XL to go on sale, typically at the $380-400 mark.

1) If you're interested in espresso, you will outgrow the built-in grinder very quickly. No reason to waste the $100 for a built-in grinder.
2) It's a pain to repair and replace a built-in grinder.
3) The $100 difference can get you a pretty good prosumer level burr grinder when on sale.
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Jon Lai wrote:
Apr 27th, 2018 1:40 pm
I highly recommend waiting for the 840XL to go on sale, typically at the $380-400 mark.

1) If you're interested in espresso, you will outgrow the built-in grinder very quickly. No reason to waste the $100 for a built-in grinder.
2) It's a pain to repair and replace a built-in grinder.
3) The $100 difference can get you a pretty good prosumer level burr grinder when on sale.
I hear you on repair/replace, but what do you have against the quality of the built-in grinder? Gail and crew at Seattle Coffee Gear rank it on par with the Capresso Infinity or Baratza Encore. Not amazing, but definitely competent.
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unshavenyak wrote:
Apr 27th, 2018 2:00 pm
I hear you on repair/replace, but what do you have against the quality of the built-in grinder? Gail and crew at Seattle Coffee Gear rank it on par with the Capresso Infinity or Baratza Encore. Not amazing, but definitely competent.
I can't speak on behalf of Jon, but I think it's the modular aspect.
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chatbox wrote:
Apr 27th, 2018 2:05 pm
I can't speak on behalf of Jon, but I think it's the modular aspect.
This is certainly a big part of it.

I inherited a Baratza Encore from a friend because "it doesn't work". After some research, all it needed was a new burr ring and a rebuild kit as the gear was stripped.

I don't think I would be able to fix it if it was the built-in grinder that had this issue.
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Jon Lai wrote:
Apr 27th, 2018 1:40 pm
I highly recommend waiting for the 840XL to go on sale, typically at the $380-400 mark.

1) If you're interested in espresso, you will outgrow the built-in grinder very quickly. No reason to waste the $100 for a built-in grinder.
2) It's a pain to repair and replace a built-in grinder.
3) The $100 difference can get you a pretty good prosumer level burr grinder when on sale.
I own the BES870XL currently as well as have a burr mill that I used in the past with a difference machine. The big advantage of the built in grinder is the convenience. It's much faster then using a separate mill with a lot less mess. Personally I really like having it built in. They designed it really well where you push the portafilter handle forward to start/stop the grinding. I was surprised how quickly i can make coffee compared to in the past.
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Jon Lai wrote:
Apr 27th, 2018 1:40 pm
I highly recommend waiting for the 840XL to go on sale, typically at the $380-400 mark.

1) If you're interested in espresso, you will outgrow the built-in grinder very quickly. No reason to waste the $100 for a built-in grinder.
2) It's a pain to repair and replace a built-in grinder.
3) The $100 difference can get you a pretty good prosumer level burr grinder when on sale.
Got me at "prosumer". So was that a typo/autocorrect, or did you mean that when buying that burr grinder, you would be able to produce good coffee by consuming the coffee beans?
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PriceHunter wrote:
Apr 27th, 2018 2:22 pm
Got me at "prosumer". So was that a typo/autocorrect, or did you mean that when buying that burr grinder, you would be able to produce good coffee by consuming the coffee beans?
There's a second definition of prosumer: Priced between professional and consumer range.

"(marketing, of a consumer product) Targeted at serious, enthusiastic consumers, incorporating professional features but often modified for non-professional use."
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PriceHunter wrote:
Apr 27th, 2018 2:22 pm
Got me at "prosumer". So was that a typo/autocorrect, or did you mean that when buying that burr grinder, you would be able to produce good coffee by consuming the coffee beans?
It's a term borrowed from tech - namely when talking about cameras. A prosumer camera would be a product that was designed for professional use but targeted for the average consumer. For example, a mid-range DSLR can be considered prosumer, whereas a consumer level may be a mirror-less point and shoot that does not allow you to change lenses, but a professional one would be a full frame DSLR that costs $3000 for the body alone.

For grinders, I'd say a consumer level one would be a blade grinder that you can pick up at Wal-Mart for $20, up to perhaps a cheap burr grinder that breaks or doesn't grind fine enough for espresso around $40-50. The professional ones are the ones you see at coffee shops that cost $300-500+. Prosumer would be something like the Baratza Encore which retails in the $150 range.
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great machine for the price..i use atleast twice daily. which reminds me to buy the filter replacement for water
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I own the BES870XL currently as well as have a burr mill that I used in the past with a difference machine. The big advantage of the built in grinder is the convenience. It's much faster then using a separate mill with a lot less mess. Personally I really like having it built in. They designed it really well where you push the portafilter handle forward to start/stop the grinding. I was surprised how quickly i can make coffee compared to in the past.
hands down on convenience, counter space (nice built-in), and also plugs.. i had my machine (older version) almost 9 years now, 3-4 times a day. it paid itself many folds, if it breaks, i'll be buying the BES870XL.

Rocketo wrote:
Apr 27th, 2018 2:35 pm
great machine for the price..i use atleast twice daily. which reminds me to buy the filter replacement for water
hi Rocketo.

not sure if this is the same thing, but i just pour in filtered water from a filter brita jug instead of using those expensive small filters meant for the machine.. i also think it doesnt have to work so hard to get the water from the tank with nothing in it's way. interested on what others have been doing?
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Jon Lai wrote:
Apr 27th, 2018 1:40 pm
I highly recommend waiting for the 840XL to go on sale, typically at the $380-400 mark.

1) If you're interested in espresso, you will outgrow the built-in grinder very quickly. No reason to waste the $100 for a built-in grinder.
2) It's a pain to repair and replace a built-in grinder.
3) The $100 difference can get you a pretty good prosumer level burr grinder when on sale.
I was going to buy 840XL PM@BB for $435 and Breville Smart Grinder Pro (BREBCG820BSSXL) PM@BB for $217.5 under the same logic you listed, and then realized I can buy 870XL PM@BB for $473 so ordered 870XL instead of 840XL for $40 more. I will probably use Smart Grinder Pro for drip coffee dedicated now.
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wakka2u wrote:
Apr 27th, 2018 2:47 pm
hi Rocketo.

not sure if this is the same thing, but i just pour in filtered water from a filter brita jug instead of using those expensive small filters meant for the machine.. i also think it doesnt have to work so hard to get the water from the tank with nothing in it's way. interested on what others have been doing?
i actually do that still want to change it though
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