Thinking of supplement: Whey or Creatine?

[fuc847]

I originally was planning to start trying creatine couple months back, but i did about a week research. There werent ALOT of problems with it per se. But i DID hear personally that there are some longterm minor organ side-effects. And that's with proper dosage.

I havent really researched on whey, but it seems to me that all it is , is processed protein. But still.. i wanna know from personally experience of ANY effects (good and bad) of it..

i was thinking of buying the "Webber Naturals PowerWhey (low carb Lite Vanilla)" in London Drugs. Anyone got any reviews on this brand..? I know that brand makes a big difference in supplements.. so..

so post up!

and btw, here's some interesting quotes/excerpts i found in searching thru RFD.

I've been told by doctors that taking any amount of whey would cause serious long term illness. I've also been told by some doctors that whey is good for the body and can fight illness in the long term (boosts the immune system.)

Lets add to some confusion: (all from webmd.com)
Creatine protects against brain damage.
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Creatine causes muscle damage (scroll down)
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/...-9531713CA348}

Creatine appears to be safe
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/...-9531713CA348}

No doubt that creatine is safe
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/...-9531713CA348}

Creatine may cause diarrhea, nausea, cramping, muscle strain, dizziness, dehydration, and even liver and kidney damage.
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/...-9531713CA348}

O and kinda offtopic here, but personally, I wouldnt wanna take too much whey if I DO buy it. Like, prolly 10-15 grams when i DO workout. So should i take it b4 or after I workout? Or should I take 5 grams b4 workout and then 10 after? I weigh 150lbs. skinny bastard.. yeh...

[spart]

I'm pretty sure 5g of protein (or do you mean 5g or protein supplement? cuz then that'd be even less protein) here and there won't make much of a difference.

30g+ of additional protein per day might make a noticable difference, 10g probably won't.

I haven't worked out in a while, plus I'm not the most informed person on topic, but I'd probably just stick with whey supplements.

Also, you should probably take the protein every day, not just the days you work out. The off-days are when you're actually building muscle... extra protein will help.

10-15g of protein, only on workout days, would probably be a waste of money IMO.

[yiggy]

whey protein is not bad for you. if you are working out, you should really take whey protein on a regular basis.

as for creatine, i used it for a few mths, no side effects, but i'm sure a few mths is not long enough draw definite conclusions. but if you are young and healthy, creatine could really help you. and if you do the loading and cycle properly, (6 mths on, 6 mths off), it should be ok.

i did my own research before i began using it, and from what i gathered, i decided to use it.

[therock911]

well I never heard anything bad about whey powder, just a couple of my friends took/ are taking creatine and 3 one of them when he goes to pee, small chunks come out (of creatine?) i dunno but it happened when he took creatine and has stopped since then :wacko:

[KennyX]

I've taken both before, and havent noticed anything.

Whey Protein is great post workouts (with a bit of dex for the insulin spike).

As for Creatine though... I stopped taking it because I really didnt notice it doing anything.
You drink a lot of water, and you end up feeling bloated and having to take a piss ever10-15 mins. I think that taking creatine is supposed to give you more energy or something when you workout... but I never noticed it.
Personally I think Creatine gives the person more of a mental edge rather than doing anything real to the body.

[synaptech]

This goes back a few years, but I had excellent results using creatine. However I read too many possible problems with prolonged use, especially related to the liver. So I haven't taken it since. I was using the protien powder, but not consistent enough to compare...

[fuc847]

yeh, whey is prolly ok, now that i researched more. But creatine is especially bad for young ppl. (17-20) in some articles i read.

[trini]

These things are not good for you.They get you crazy and impotent.
Consult your physician for some advice.

Yes i know its a give or take situation on the individual.

[fuc847]

well, i wouldnt go THAT far saying protein will make you impotent lol, same goes for crazy :P

well.. prolly 20% of the male population in North america takes Whey. so that's like several million.....

[Xirhyn]

My brother takes Whey everyday with oatmeal, 3 times I think.

If you take whey protein everyday and workout you will get flatulence. But this is a side effect for others I guess, not you.

[spart]

Originally posted by Xirhyn@Nov 3 2003, 01:47 AM
My brother takes Whey everyday with oatmeal, 3 times I think.

If you take whey protein everyday and workout you will get flatulence. But this is a side effect for others I guess, not you.

LOL

[bigredlemon]

Here's what i know:
Whey: go for it. It's a better source of protein than any meat you eat because you'll get the protein much faster into your body, and it doesn't take as much to digest it gram per gram of protein as compared to meat.

Creatine: if you skip the loading phase and just do 5g a day you'll be fine. If you are paranoid about your health then you can cycle it (few weeks/months on, few weeks/months off.)

Eating oatmeal is great if you are a hardcore bodybuilder but i have a feeling you aren't there yet. Good for you though.

Ps. if you're going to take a quote, be sure to attribute it.

[thomas997]

Creatine will make you faster/stronger etc.. some studies say like 10% improvement in stamina.. more in strength. This was after a week of a fairly large dose a day I believe..


But then when you go off the stuff, you get really weak. Weaker than you were when you started.. which sucks because it means your dependant on the stuff..

There was a marketplace on creatine.. some lady was taking it then stopped... maybe she was taking a larger dose than any of you though no idea..

:/

I wouldnt risk it, whey protein should be fine though. As long as you dont go crazy with it

[bigredlemon]

if you take too high of a dose of creatine for too long a period of time, your own body would have decreased its production of creatine itself since it no longer needs to. (less stress on your body anyway). So if you stop of course the creatine production will be lower than before (and only temporarily.)

The same thing happens for any drug, and even vitamins. But no one tells you not to eat carrots because it contains too much betacarotean do they?

The draw back only happens _if_ you stop, and only for short periods anyway.

[miss_swan]

Both worked for me very well.

Creatine, in particular, was awesome. After being on Creatine for a couple of weeks I began experiencing amazing pumps and increases in strength. It was great ... then I got lazy and rested on my laurels and stopped taking it. Or something to that effect.

I was very busy with school at the time so that also factored into my behavior.

One thing for sure with Creatine is that you should be consistent or don't bother at all. You would be wasting your money IMO.