Thinking of supplement: Whey or Creatine?

[zeroburn]

www.bodybuilding.com

goto this site for all the answers you need.

For you I'd suggest this. Take 2 weeks off from working out right now. If your very lean right now and want to bulk up start eating a lot more calories. Go on 8-12 week cycles. Basically to build muscle need the calories. So bulk up then cut losing the fat.

I'd be taking whey protein to make sure you get about 1 gram of protein/lb of body weight.

Glutamine is a great supplement to take to help retain your muscle mass.

Lastly a great multi vitamine is great. I dont like GNC but the mega man vitamin they sell is great.

[charger]

You guys are going to have trouble finding ANY accurate information on creatine. A lot of these so called "studies" are actually done in subsidiary labs of the companies that make and sell the stuff. My dad is a doctor and here is what he tells me about creatine


1) All the build up of bulk is just water. When you stop taking the creatine the water is simple reabsorbed. This effect is not really that effective, nor is it healthy.


2) Creatine is naturally created in the body. When you take it your body goes into shock and stops making it on its own. Thus when you stop taking it your body goes into withdrawal.


Creatine is mildly toxic, hence the effects on your liver

[trini]

So whats the verdict on this fitness experts.
Yur take now Daisy.

Why i'm asking is that i drink alot of Nutrament its a so called meal replacement but i just like how it tastes and can take it with me around unlike milk it wont go bad.Unless shoppers has one similar that go on sale for about 14.00 for 24 cans.

If there is a whey or protein/creatine item or particular brand that actually tastes good then i might try it.
Thanks and feel free to move to the sports section.

[bdckr]

well I never heard anything bad about whey powder, just a couple of my friends took/ are taking creatine and 3 one of them when he goes to pee, small chunks come out (of creatine?) i dunno but it happened when he took creatine and has stopped since then :wacko:

That's the clap, not whey.

Protein in the right mix with carbohydrates can be effective pre- and post-workout.

Creatine has only been available for the past 10 years or so, so the long term or effects of usage over 10 years are still not known....

Creatine has been around a lot longer than 10 years. People have been aware of the possibilities of creatine supplementation since the early 1900s. I'll agree with you, though, that good long-term studies haven't been done.

[kloan]

My experience with Creatine, when taking 5g a day, was that my muscles would 'baloon', usually the next day after a workout. From what I've read, it's mostly water retention. It's also very dehydrating, so it's hard on the kidneys. It allows more nitrogen storage in the muscles, so it's great for 'bursts' of strength, which allows you to lift more.. but the most recent time I was taking it, I really didn't notice much help from it, so I stopped taking it, and won't take it ever again. I prefer to go all on my own, so I know that what I'm doing is what's working.

Whey protein is essential if you're lifting weights, because you need 1g protein/lb of body weight (at least) if you want to see any gain in muscle mass. 20-30 mins after a workout is the time to take it, whey isolate being the quickest absorbed. I drink 40g of protein after a workout, and every night I drink 40g before bed.

[Dakx]

Just my 2 cents.. I wouldnt bother using suppliments until youve been working out seriously for about a year. Get used to the training, and do more research. If your 150 now.. you should be able to gain about 30lbs in a year.. at around 180 to 190 start using suppliments if you want to bulk up more.

[NLI10D]

creatine is mostly about water retention and burst of energy so you could work out longer. however with that being said, you're suppose to cycle the use. if you dont then you can pretty much kiss the kidneys goodbye. creatine is suppose to be used before the start of the workout, so you could work out longer and more intense. not all creatines are created equal as the old adage goes you get what you pay for. the v12 is more expensive than the other brands because water retention is less compared to the other brands. proteins and the other stuff you take after workout because they help build up the micro-tears you've created in your muscle while working out faster and bigger (bulking up).