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alexh9 wrote:
Mar 24th, 2018 1:51 am
Since this thread is so epic, I can't really search for this, but is there a consensus on how much one should tip for take-out, if at all?
Doubtful that there is a consensus on this. I tip like $2 at one Chinese place, but only 'cuz the food is good, and they give you a lot, and I expect that money (or some of it) to go to the kitchen staff, to top it off, a combo is about the same price as McDonald's, and taste's 100x better. Anywhere else, like Domino's or Swiss Chalet, or wherever, never do I tip. Though Domino's seems to be the only one with that option to tip. For pick-up. What the...
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A refreshing tip about tipping from my hotel last week in Iceland.

No.Tipping.Iceland.jpg

If only we could create the same environment in Canada. (Yeah, I know I'm dreaming.)
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No surprise, the redflagdeals community is extremely cheap and hates tipping. lol.

Tipping is meant to reward a server for their service, the percentage shouldn't matter, and it certainly shouldn't matter if the tip % is based on pre or post tax calculations. Get off your wallets and reward good service if you can, or don't go out to eat/drink!

The amount of whining and careful calculation that so many of you put into this is ridiculous. You're ok with spending $100 on dinner, but heaven forbid your tip be anymore than $10.

Be generous if you have it. Don't be if you can't. End of story.

I'm not a server, and I'm not related to any servers.

V
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victa wrote:
Jul 9th, 2018 3:26 pm
No surprise, the redflagdeals community is extremely cheap and hates tipping. lol.

Tipping is meant to reward a server for their service, the percentage shouldn't matter, and it certainly shouldn't matter if the tip % is based on pre or post tax calculations. Get off your wallets and reward good service if you can, or don't go out to eat/drink!

The amount of whining and careful calculation that so many of you put into this is ridiculous. You're ok with spending $100 on dinner, but heaven forbid your tip be anymore than $10.

Be generous if you have it. Don't be if you can't. End of story.

I'm not a server, and I'm not related to any servers.

V
Should I tip bus driver then? if they smile at me on the bus and say "How are you"


They also get paid for their job and they go on strike sometime
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victa wrote:
Jul 9th, 2018 3:26 pm
No surprise, the redflagdeals community is extremely cheap and hates tipping. lol.

Tipping is meant to reward a server for their service, the percentage shouldn't matter, and it certainly shouldn't matter if the tip % is based on pre or post tax calculations. Get off your wallets and reward good service if you can, or don't go out to eat/drink!

The amount of whining and careful calculation that so many of you put into this is ridiculous. You're ok with spending $100 on dinner, but heaven forbid your tip be anymore than $10.

Be generous if you have it. Don't be if you can't. End of story.

I'm not a server, and I'm not related to any servers.

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I shouldn't have to tip because we should all receive good service all the time. If you don't then there's a problem with the staff that should be rectified.
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victa wrote:
Jul 9th, 2018 3:26 pm
No surprise, the redflagdeals community is extremely cheap and hates tipping. lol.

Tipping is meant to reward a server for their service, the percentage shouldn't matter, and it certainly shouldn't matter if the tip % is based on pre or post tax calculations. Get off your wallets and reward good service if you can, or don't go out to eat/drink!

The amount of whining and careful calculation that so many of you put into this is ridiculous. You're ok with spending $100 on dinner, but heaven forbid your tip be anymore than $10.

Be generous if you have it. Don't be if you can't. End of story.

I'm not a server, and I'm not related to any servers.

V
You need to read up on the history of slavery, the restoration period after the American Civil War, and how Tipping gained such a foothold in North America.
Perhaps then you’d be more apt to be INSULTED by Tipping “culture”
Whether you work in the industry or not

Not Tipping, is not the opposite of Tipping

The opposite, is actually paying people a FAIR WAGE they can actually live on

That is what Canada should strive for ... then there would be no need to tip anyone.

Server would work. Server would be paid as per the Federal Law, and Server (and Employer) would BOTH pay what they owe to the Government in regards to income taxes.

Canada is moving in this direction... to join most of the rest of the world.

America still lags far behind... where Employers still TAKE ADVANTAGE of Service People, paying them less than they deserve... in fact there are 5 US STATES that have no State Mandated Minimum Wage... where the RICH Employer abuses this fact to pay substandard wages that Servers cannot live on (like $ 2 or $ 3 an hour).

And oh ya, what 5 States would they be ?

Alabama - Louisiana - Mississippi - South Carolina - and Tennessee

All Southern States ... 5 of the most confederate states. 5 States densely populated by Blacks. 5 States where Jim Crow was king. 5 States where most living below the poverty line are “people of colour”.

Want to do something positive in this world... fight on the side of a Living Minimum Wage ... even here in Canada that would make a huge difference for the working poor. There should not be 2 Minimum Wages... one for servers and one for everyone else. That is discrimination against folks who work in the service industry. No man or woman should have to “beg” for the tips that make up a portion of their income... that’s degrading, and unfair... why should the pretty server get more than the plain server... the young more than the old ... the women more than the men ... everyone should just be paid the same FAIR wage based on merit / performance not looks etc.
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Agree 100%, but.....
There should not be 2 Minimum Wages... one for servers and one for everyone else.
....are there two minimum wages in Ontario?
I thought it was $14.-/hr across the board.
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krs wrote:
Jul 9th, 2018 10:35 pm
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Agree 100%, but.....

....are there two minimum wages in Ontario?
I thought it was $14.-/hr across the board.
Three minimum wage categories actually: https://www.restaurantscanada.org/what- ... ase-means/
Minimum wage category January 1, 2018 January 1, 2019
General $14.00 $15.00
Student under 18 $13.15 $14.10
Liquor servers $12.20 $13.05
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Funny though, even with the minimum wage increase, I'm seeing more places with non-liquor minimum wage paying jobs put a tip option on their debit machines. Just lately I've seen this at a local coffee shop in Kingston and Dominos Pizza.
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victa wrote:
Jul 9th, 2018 3:26 pm
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Tipping is meant to reward a server for their service, the percentage shouldn't matter, and it certainly shouldn't matter if the tip % is based on pre or post tax calculations. Get off your wallets and reward good service if you can, or don't go out to eat/drink!...
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The problem is that people do not tip to reward superior service. Compensation studies have consistently shown that there is no direct connection between the service that a customer receives and the payment of a tip.

People tip for many reasons. Most tip because they are expected to. Tipping is a cultural tradition and "When in Rome..". Others tip because of peer pressure. It would be embarrassing to be seen as cheap by their table mates. Some tip to impress their servers - they want the server to believe that they can afford the experience. Keeping up appearances is important to some.

Others tip because they feel sorry for the servers. The servers work so hard and are paid so little, they believe. Others will tell you that they tip to pay it forward. They want to feel generous. Many tip because they themselves once were servers so they know what the job is like.

Still others tip in the hopes of receiving preferential treatment. This is very common in drinking establishments with people hoping for a free drink or a heavy pour.

The worst are those who tip due to personal biases. Attractive people generally receive more tips. People of certain nationalities receive more tips. Women dressed and looking a certain way receive more tips.

Even people who pay with credit cards tend to tip more than people who pay with cash.

Very different reasons why people tip, but very little to do with the service received. In fact, tipping has more to do with the reward the customer receives (how great they feel) than with the service received.
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I normally do 13% to just match the tax. I think that's fair. I find it unbelievable that tipping is the norm now and most machines show 15%, 18% and 20% and this is after tax...

when I went to Japan, they won't even allow you to tip. I once left a tip, and the waiter came running back to give me my money back and the service there was exceptional! I wish it was like that in Canada..
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cybersaga wrote:
Jul 10th, 2018 8:31 am
Funny though, even with the minimum wage increase, I'm seeing more places with non-liquor minimum wage paying jobs put a tip option on their debit machines. Just lately I've seen this at a local coffee shop in Kingston and Dominos Pizza.
I've seen this at a lot of Dominos and Subways and it's annoying
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victa wrote:
Jul 9th, 2018 3:26 pm
No surprise, the redflagdeals community is extremely cheap and hates tipping. lol.

Tipping is meant to reward a server for their service, the percentage shouldn't matter, and it certainly shouldn't matter if the tip % is based on pre or post tax calculations. Get off your wallets and reward good service if you can, or don't go out to eat/drink!

The amount of whining and careful calculation that so many of you put into this is ridiculous. You're ok with spending $100 on dinner, but heaven forbid your tip be anymore than $10.

Be generous if you have it. Don't be if you can't. End of story.

I'm not a server, and I'm not related to any servers.

V
To each their own. I offer a service, and I don't expect nor want tips. I set my prices accordingly. You want to tip, ok, thanks! But, you know what my reward is? Providing good service and seeing my customers happy. If you are working for extra monetary reward as your goal you are in for a bad time and it sets a bad precedence. You will be upset if you don't get tips. You won't be providing the best service you can.

I don't believe in tip expectations. Tip if you want, but I think it is harmful as we have seen in this thread.
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victa wrote:
Jul 9th, 2018 3:26 pm
No surprise, the redflagdeals community is extremely cheap and hates tipping. lol.

Tipping is meant to reward a server for their service, the percentage shouldn't matter, and it certainly shouldn't matter if the tip % is based on pre or post tax calculations. Get off your wallets and reward good service if you can, or don't go out to eat/drink!

The amount of whining and careful calculation that so many of you put into this is ridiculous. You're ok with spending $100 on dinner, but heaven forbid your tip be anymore than $10.
I take it that you never read through this thread to get the gist of it all, since it has almost nothing to to with being cheap. So I'll give you a summary.
  • Tipping used to be to...well... reward prompt service but these days it has morphed into an expectation and subsidy for employers paying low wages.
  • Tipping amounts used to be about 10%, but the expectations (sorry...'recommendation') has gone to 12%...then 15%...now 20% or even higher.
  • Pre-tax or after tax makes a difference.
Be generous if you have it. Don't be if you can't. End of story.
It appears you missed the title of this thread too. Tip shaming. Making people feel obliged to leave a tip (even when they don't think it necessary) or a tip larger than they think warranted or affordable.

There ya go. The Cliff's Notes version of this thread. I've given my opinion on the topic elsewhere in this thread so I won't give it here.
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If it wasn't for my wife, I'd just get take out. I'd much rather eat in a park or in the comfort of my own home.

I have no issues with giving a tip when a server goes above and beyond, but when most servers provide minimal and lackluster service and a good tip is expected, it pisses me off that they're using it as a social standard to strong arm me.

It's insane servers thinks their job is some type of special profession and deserves that type of reward for their "job" - it's your GD job. Walmart, McDonalds or Tims employees, don't get tips, neither should you. And yes, you are on the same level as them, a job that only deserves min wage.

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