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Toronto -> Barcelona via Aeroplan @ 27,800 points+ $560tax

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Always compare the points + tax value to an aggregation site such as Hipmunk, Kayak or even the airline directly.

I've settled on a flight to Europe for 122K points (optionally 26K + $580 tax) valued at about $970.
Not the absolute best redemption but better than the max redemption value in the store.

That said, often it comes down to timing (on/off season) which might not be in your control.
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Turpentine wrote:
Nov 30th, 2017 3:47 pm
I agree with your logic, but you can get more out of economy flights. IMO, the best valuations tend to be for the coasts: I live in Montreal and I can go to YVR for 25k points and $160 in taxes. Given that a Tango YUL-YVR-YUL ticket generally runs in the 600-800 range, that's a valuation of $400-$600 for 25k. Not bad at all. But I realize it's probably as good as you can get with economy tickets.
I agree, I value them at roughly 2c/mile. I am hoping to fly to Hawaii out of detroit next year. $14 in taxes with United and it's 45000 miles. You can also do a 3 way flight for nothing extra. So you could go to Vancouver and Calgary with 3 legs of the flight. That's where the money is in aeroplan.
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JMCD wrote:
Nov 30th, 2017 4:12 pm
I agree, I value them at roughly 2c/mile. I am hoping to fly to Hawaii out of detroit next year. $14 in taxes with United and it's 45000 miles. You can also do a 3 way flight for nothing extra. So you could go to Vancouver and Calgary with 3 legs of the flight. That's where the money is in aeroplan.
Now that's what I call realistic taxes!
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do you have stopovers? please provide more info
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You maybe right but I went with the numbers that are provided in the link at the end of my first post.
rosenberg100 wrote:
Nov 30th, 2017 3:10 pm
25,0000 is 600$ in fares?
is this right? are aeroplan points worth more than other points system? (except air miles)

I cashed out 25,000 Aventura points for like 200$ worth of gift cards lol did I mess up? (Aventura is comparable to aeroplan right?)
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JCYC5 wrote:
Nov 30th, 2017 4:03 pm
I'm flying Edmonton - Toronto - New York - Brussels - Istanbul - Phuket - Bangkok - Tokyo - Vancouver - Edmonton for 155,000 aeroplan miles and $220. Oh - in business class the entire way.

Sorry OP, not remotely close to hot.
Wow a great deal, I guess you must have spent a lot of time planning this, Are you stopping in every city ?? I guess this has to be booked through Aeroplan ?? Can it be online ??
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JCYC5 wrote:
Nov 30th, 2017 4:03 pm
I'm flying Edmonton - Toronto - New York - Brussels - Istanbul - Phuket - Bangkok - Tokyo - Vancouver - Edmonton for 155,000 aeroplan miles and $220. Oh - in business class the entire way.

Sorry OP, not remotely close to hot.
wow, details? i have about the same amount of miles.
would love to know more about your trip and how you went about planning it.
is it for an entire year?
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mgn2000 wrote:
Nov 30th, 2017 8:32 pm

Wow a great deal, I guess you must have spent a lot of time planning this, Are you stopping in every city ?? I guess this has to be booked through Aeroplan ?? Can it be online ??
gotglint wrote:
Nov 30th, 2017 9:26 pm
wow, details? i have about the same amount of miles.
would love to know more about your trip and how you went about planning it.
is it for an entire year?
It does take a little bit of time to plan such a trip. Every stop I mentioned is between 20-24 hours, with the exception of the 2 allowable 24hr+ stops and 1 destination. In my case, I'm stopping in Brussels for 6 days, Phuket for 6, and Tokyo for 5. This way I get to travel Western Europe, take a beach vacation, and explore basically all of main Japan in one trip. Everything else is a nice extra - a day in Toronto, New York, Istanbul, and Vancouver.

Such a trip is called a mini-round the world (rtw). It basically works by first determining the furthest point you're travelling to (which determines the cost in miles), and then finding flights to tie it all in. In my case, the furthest point and thus my destination is Phuket. The trick then is to find flights that incur a minimal amount of fuel surcharge. These bookings have to be done via the phone, and really is easiest if you feed them the exact flight number and dates.

Pointsnerd has a fantastic series up that is written in more detail than I can and should here. Check it out: http://www.pointsnerd.ca/aeroplans-mini ... nts-rules/

If you want to know about my specific booking, or how i did it, PM me!
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A return flight to BCN would be a great deal for 27,800 if you could fly United through EWR or IAD, or Swiss Air through GVA because the scam charges would likely be <$200. But, with $560 of scam charges, I'm guessing that the flight is on Air Canada or Lufthansa metal, possibly transiting through LHR, which is prohibitively expensive.
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JCYC5 wrote:
Nov 30th, 2017 4:03 pm
I'm flying Edmonton - Toronto - New York - Brussels - Istanbul - Phuket - Bangkok - Tokyo - Vancouver - Edmonton for 155,000 aeroplan miles and $220. Oh - in business class the entire way.

Sorry OP, not remotely close to hot.
I'm guessing you're diamond status? which in all fairness is great but to make a comparable with your example doesn't really make much sense.
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induction wrote:
Dec 1st, 2017 10:28 am
I'm guessing you're diamond status? which in all fairness is great but to make a comparable with your example doesn't really make much sense.
Nope. I have no status with Aeroplan nor Air Canada.

Status only reduces market fare or YQ if you book a trip that generates YQ. I avoid YQ by avoiding long AC metal flights. YEG-YYZ and YVR-YEG are the only ones that generate YQ. I am flying AC from NRT to YVR, but Japan prohibits YQ from being charged so.... no YQ! To get to Europe, I'm flying Brussels Airlines which does not charge YQ.
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That's why I can't wait for AC to go away. Their surcharge BS is stupid.

You could try to find with non surcharge airlines.
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JCYC5 wrote:
Dec 1st, 2017 10:41 am
Nope. I have no status with Aeroplan nor Air Canada.

Status only reduces market fare or YQ if you book a trip that generates YQ. I avoid YQ by avoiding long AC metal flights. YEG-YYZ and YVR-YEG are the only ones that generate YQ. I am flying AC from NRT to YVR, but Japan prohibits YQ from being charged so.... no YQ! To get to Europe, I'm flying Brussels Airlines which does not charge YQ.
Gotcha...my bad on the assumption. My best friend get these types of deals and is diamond status so I just made the assumption you are the same. Sorry!
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In fairness to OP, this becomes a hot deal if you have Altitude status. My understanding is that for a typical Air Canada redemption flight, around 80% of the BS fees are for the "carrier surcharge". This carrier surcharge is supposedly waived if you have 25k status or higher (can anybody with status please confirm this?).

As for Aeroplan valuation, because of the fees I think a more realistic conversion rate is 1 cent per point if you do not have status and around 1.5 cents per point if you do. I realize the RTW redemption option probably gives you more bang for the buck, but for most people, I think this option would be very difficult to redeem (vacation time limitations, complicated booking, etc).

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