Traffic Offence - Anyone know a cop

[whoam]

Hi everyone, this is what happened, I made a right turn when you are not supposed between 4pm to 6pm. I made the right trun because it is faster to turn right onto this side street, rather than going to the light and making a right where it can actually hold up traffic if there are people crossing. Well anyways I made the right turn, and up a bit on the side street two police cars were sitting there waiting for people to turn right so they could give out tickets.

The set fine is $85.00 but the total payable is $110.00. Beside it says that Total payable includes costs and applicable victim fine surcharge.

I am assuming the cost is the $85, but what are they charging $25 for vicitm fine surcharges. Who is the victim here?

Should I fight this in court? I don't feel like paying this ticket because it seems to be pointless to have this no right turn sign onto a side street.
Thanks.

[MadCow]

You always have the option of calling X-Coppers. They offer a free consultation to let you know your options.

[Jebus]

Just because making an extra turn is an inconvenience means you can brake the law.

[CARLiTO_]

Go to court, and they will offer you a reduced fine.

[dolphie]

[QUOTE]I don't feel like paying this ticket because it seems to be pointless to have this no right turn sign onto a side street[/QUOTE]
let us know how that works for ya.

[pfdude]

[QUOTE=CARLiTO_]Go to court, and they will offer you a reduced fine.[/QUOTE]

Or the officers won't show up and you win. You don't need XCoppers for this. Do it yourself.

[charger]

I'd say you have a fairly good chance at this actually. Go for it, but talk to x-coppers first.

[gman]

[QUOTE=whoam]Hi everyone, this is what happened, I made a right turn when you are not supposed between 4pm to 6pm. I made the right trun because it is faster to turn right onto this side street, rather than going to the light and making a right where it can actually hold up traffic if there are people crossing. Well anyways I made the right turn, and up a bit on the side street two police cars were sitting there waiting for people to turn right so they could give out tickets.

The set fine is $85.00 but the total payable is $110.00. Beside it says that Total payable includes costs and applicable victim fine surcharge.

I am assuming the cost is the $85, but what are they charging $25 for vicitm fine surcharges. Who is the victim here?
[/QUOTE]
It is a surcharge even though there is no victim.
[QUOTE]
Should I fight this in court? I don't feel like paying this ticket because it seems to be pointless to have this no right turn sign onto a side street.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Who would feel like paying ticket?? :rolleyes:
There is a reason putting a no right turn side. You just don't know what it is.
e.g. the residents do not like people like you to use their street as short cut.
They don't want the traffic in busy hour to spill into their street.

[gei]

You can plead your case to the justice of peace and have your fine reduced (most likely), or get the assistance of a paralegal (ie xcoppers), and hopefully have it reduced even more (or possibly thrown out)

[Avenger]

Does anyone else find it stupid how some people are ignorant enough to know a rule (see the sign), know they are breaking the rule (turning and disregarding the sign), then get mad when they get in trouble for breaking the rule? You saw the sign, you know it is not allowed, so you willingly took the risk in doing it. Plain and simple, jsut because you do not agree with laws does not mean you can disregard them.

[gman]

[QUOTE=Avenger]Does anyone else find it stupid how some people are ignorant enough to know a rule (see the sign), know they are breaking the rule (turning and disregarding the sign), then get mad when they get in trouble for breaking the rule? You saw the sign, you know it is not allowed, so you willingly took the risk in doing it. Plain and simple, jsut because you do not agree with laws does not mean you can disregard them.[/QUOTE]

Because some people only obey law when it fits them. If it does not, they consider that meaningless or redefine the law the way they like. Since it is 'meaningless', they think it is okay to break it.

There is one defense he can use. "Judge, I thought 4pm to 6pm is Hong Kong time. It does not say it is PST."

[Avenger]

[QUOTE=gman]Because some people only obey law when it fits them. If it does not, they consider that meaningless or redefine the law the way they like. Since it is 'meaningless', they think it is okay to break it.

There is one defense he can use. "Judge, I thought 4pm to 6pm is Hong Kong time. It does not say it is PST."[/QUOTE]
Yep, or someone speeding and saying they do not deserve the fine because the limit is too low.

It just kills me how he says he knew, and still did it just because he disapproved. At least if he missed the sign or something it would be a little more understandable, but he has no respect for rules or authority.

[yuwing8]

always go for a free consultation! it's better to just pay them money to fight for you than pay the government money and get ur points deducted and lose more money from insurance companies! well thats what i learned from my dad

[162]

don't be a crybaby - pay the fine.

[ynchu]

You're ticketed because you deserved it, so just pay the ticket.

You know you shouldn't turn right yet you did, and you blame the law for not allowing you to turn right? You should become a US citizen if you keep thinking like that.