Transfer to York or Ryerson?

[Heero01]

Hey everyone...

I have been contemplating this entire year about switching to York or Ryerson for the remainder of my BA degree (I have 2 more years left). My first year average is a 70 and my second year average is shaping up to be low 80 (2 more exams left).

I don't like the attitude my school currently has. I am only using my undergraduate as a stepping stone to law school, yet Waterloo tries to make it seem as if a BA will be somewhat beneficial to me... I am in the coop program if it makes a difference.

So in short... can I switch & what sort of impact would it make on me. Also, what school is easier? I am looking to boost my average by 10% for the next 2 years.

Thanks

Edit: Any negative effects from moving to Waterloo to York or Ryerson?

[Syne]

I was recently talking to a friend who went to York, and I asked him why he chose York. He simply replied "ABR, buddy.. ABR"

I thought for a minute but couldn't figure out what he was talking about, so I asked.

"Anywhere but Ryerson"

[dankup]

I was recently talking to a friend who went to York, and I asked him why he chose York. He simply replied "ABR, buddy.. ABR"

I thought for a minute but couldn't figure out what he was talking about, so I asked.

"Anywhere but Ryerson"

As a person who is currently in Ryerson, that was hilariously amazing, I could not have agreed more.

[imflying12]

Hey everyone...

I have been contemplating this entire year about switching to York or Ryerson for the remainder of my BA degree (I have 2 more years left). My first year average is a 70 and my second year average is shaping up to be low 80 (2 more exams left).

I don't like the attitude my school currently has. I am only using my undergraduate as a stepping stone to law school, yet Waterloo tries to make it seem as if a BA will be somewhat beneficial to me... I am in the coop program if it makes a difference.

So in short... can I switch & what sort of impact would it make on me. Also, what school is easier? I am looking to boost my average by 10% for the next 2 years.

Thanks

Edit: Any negative effects from moving to Waterloo to York or Ryerson?

This should be a no brainer. Its better to get a arts degree from York than Ryerson. Not only that, ryerson is bad. Even UOIT is catching up.

[raymondh]

I'll give you my honest opinion. If its law that you want, go to York. York's osgoode law school is well known locally and internationally. I hear that the criminology / law undergraduate program is really good. But icant speak for that as i go to Uoft, though a couple of my friends that go there find it ok.

[raymondh]

I agree York's crim.program seems good. However OP wants to just get a high gpa. Ryerson might be better in this. I did hear York was easier but crim.not sure.

If you put your mind to it (your studies) regardless of how hard the program is, you should be able to do fine in either school. My point was that, reputation wise, york would probably be a better choice. Applying to Osgoode will also give you advantage as well if you did your under grad studies at the home school i believe.

[windforcexx28]

If you put your mind to it (your studies) regardless of how hard the program is, you should be able to do fine in either school. My point was that, reputation wise, york would probably be a better choice. Applying to Osgoode will also give you advantage as well if you did your under grad studies at the home school i believe.

There's no preference for where you did your undergrad.

[Zambie]

A 70 probably won't get you into law school. But take advantage of yorks grading scheme its probably one of the easiest universities to get a high GPA in. There is no - grades (A-, B- etc.).

Here is the GPAs for the class entering osgoode in 2011

CGPA
3.70+ 40%
3.50-3.69 29%
3.33-3.49 14%
3.00-3.29 9%
<3.00 6%

Use this chart.
http://studentsuccess.mcmaster.ca/re...ion-chart.html

[Heero01]

I was recently talking to a friend who went to York, and I asked him why he chose York. He simply replied "ABR, buddy.. ABR"

I thought for a minute but couldn't figure out what he was talking about, so I asked.

"Anywhere but Ryerson"

This should be a no brainer. Its better to get a arts degree from York than Ryerson. Not only that, ryerson is bad. Even UOIT is catching up.

I'll give you my honest opinion. If its law that you want, go to York. York's osgoode law school is well known locally and internationally. I hear that the criminology / law undergraduate program is really good. But icant speak for that as i go to Uoft, though a couple of my friends that go there find it ok.

yes - I know that the law program there is good. The crim one is not tho lol. I am looking for easy undergrad not graduate.

I agree York's crim.program seems good. However OP wants to just get a high gpa. Ryerson might be better in this. I did hear York was easier but crim.not sure.

If you put your mind to it (your studies) regardless of how hard the program is, you should be able to do fine in either school. My point was that, reputation wise, york would probably be a better choice. Applying to Osgoode will also give you advantage as well if you did your under grad studies at the home school i believe.

See... the problem is professors at Waterloo treat their courses seriously. They try their hardest to make class average in the 60s which pisses me off. Why should I work hard during my undergraduate when others don't do any work and get easy grades? Especially when there is little to no difference in how the degrees are treated.

A 70 probably won't get you into law school. But take advantage of yorks grading scheme its probably one of the easiest universities to get a high GPA in. There is no - grades (A-, B- etc.).

Here is the GPAs for the class entering osgoode in 2011

CGPA
3.70+ 40%
3.50-3.69 29%
3.33-3.49 14%
3.00-3.29 9%
<3.00 6%

Use this chart.
http://studentsuccess.mcmaster.ca/re...ion-chart.html

I had a 70% first year, my second year grade is at an 80 which puts me at 3.. The problem I have is with my professors and class work. I am looking to switch to a school where I will not need to put any effort in in order for me to get a 90%~. I am only looking to get into law school, so undergraduate means nothing to me.

Also, with my current lag can I transfer to ryerson or York? Or will my 70% in first year stop me from getting acceptance?

[Heero01]

Just contacted Ryerson:

Basicly there are too many loops to jump through to get accepted. Also apparently they don't accept may courses taught at Uwaterloo because they might be "simplistic" (the reps words, not mine) versus Ryersons "professional" courses.

What a joke. York is my last hope.

[raymondh]

Just contacted Ryerson:

Basicly there are too many loops to jump through to get accepted. Also apparently they don't accept may courses taught at Uwaterloo because they might be "simplistic" (the reps words, not mine) versus Ryersons "professional" courses.

What a joke. York is my last hope.

lol? are you serious? I think the rep is playing with you. Anywho, i had a friend who got most of his transfer credits from his commerce program at utm last year. york is suppose to be "lenient" when it comes to transfer credits.
http://futurestudents.yorku.ca/transfer_credit/
http://futurestudents.yorku.ca/university_transfers

call them up to make sure

[Heero01]

lol? are you serious? I think the rep is playing with you. Anywho, i had a friend who got most of his transfer credits from his commerce program at utm last year. york is suppose to be "lenient" when it comes to transfer credits.
http://futurestudents.yorku.ca/transfer_credit/
http://futurestudents.yorku.ca/university_transfers

call them up to make sure

Maybe - she started laughing when I told her I wanted to come to Ryerson because it was more laidback

I'll call them tomorrow, but if they have the same policy (maximum of 2 years worth of credits) it might not be worth it for me.

I still hate that Waterloo treats a BA program like a real degree. When you talk to professors it seems like they think we can really be competative in the work force with JUST a BA...

[Zambie]

oh I understand now xD, waterloo and UFT are harder to do well in wouldn't recommend them for undergrad but thats too late =p.

Check the undergraduate calendar for the program you want to transfer into. Also try to go to the university and book an appointment with an admissions adviser compare their courses to the ones you've taken if you make a good case that you completed the same course material then they should give you the transfer credit. They usually have a list of preapproved course equivalents from different Ontario universities (some online ones). They can give you more credits beyond this but you'll need to do some negotiating.

Can't find the preapproved list for other universities but again here is the one for mcmaster that you can check out.
http://www.eng.mcmaster.ca/lop/equiv2.php

[windforcexx28]

OP, the grading scheme mainly applies in the first two years of undergrad. Once you enter third year, your averages should lie somewhere in the 70s (maybe even low 80s).

If you're solely transferring to get marks, I'm afraid you will be disappointed. Not only will you end up delaying your graduation (losing credits during the transfer), but you also might not get the marks you want. I'm a transfer student that transferred to york, and tbh, some courses are horrible with the ways they assign marks to student. So far, all my classes has a low 60s average and it's not exactly "easy" to get the 80s that you want. You still have to put in substantial amounts of effort in order to get these A's. In fact, I've actually been screwed over by their grading scheme last semester where they gave out nothing but 50s and 60s and expected to bell the course upward at the end of the course.

I will, however, agree that because there's no minuses in york's grading scheme that it might help students who usually get marks in the minuses' spectrum.

I'm not telling you not to transfer for whatever reasons you have. I'm just putting another perspective of things so you can make a more informed decision.

[minty14]

OP, the grading scheme mainly applies in the first two years of undergrad. Once you enter third year, your averages should lie somewhere in the 70s (maybe even low 80s).

If you're solely transferring to get marks, I'm afraid you will be disappointed. Not only will you end up delaying your graduation (losing credits during the transfer), but you also might not get the marks you want. I'm a transfer student that transferred to york, and tbh, some courses are horrible with the ways they assign marks to student. So far, all my classes has a low 60s average and it's not exactly "easy" to get the 80s that you want. You still have to put in substantial amounts of effort in order to get these A's. In fact, I've actually been screwed over by their grading scheme last semester where they gave out nothing but 50s and 60s and expected to bell the course upward at the end of the course.

I will, however, agree that because there's no minuses in york's grading scheme that it might help students who usually get marks in the minuses' spectrum.

I'm not telling you not to transfer for whatever reasons you have. I'm just putting another perspective of things so you can make a more informed decision.

+1 I have to agree with you wind, I'm guessing your referring to the ADMS courses at York? I believe i saw you posting somewhere stating that you were an accounting major? However, the faculty of fine arts' standards which is what op wants to get into may be different from the Atkinson department.
Its best for op to post this on the York Forum for better insight.