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Trudeau going after Personal Services Corps disguised as small businesses

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LeisureSuitL wrote:
Dec 7th, 2017 11:25 am
Plus every used vehicle sale is charged PST. That could be 5-10 charges of tax on the same product over its useful life. Complete scam.
What does a scam mean? Obviously we all want to pay less tax but it's a zero sum game. For someone to pay less someone else needs to pay more. So if we cut used car sales tax and increase new car sales tax would that be fairer?
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fogetmylogin wrote:
Dec 8th, 2017 2:32 am
What does a scam mean? Obviously we all want to pay less tax but it's a zero sum game. For someone to pay less someone else needs to pay more. So if we cut used car sales tax and increase new car sales tax would that be fairer?
There would be better ways to collect the tax from the car owners. Maybe based on fuel economy, insurance value, etc. Instead of a big tax when you buy the car, the tax should be distributed equally. This would encourage people to update their cars more often.
Maybe that is what carbon tax is supposed to do?
Unfortunately our short sided politicians stay away from any change that affects all car owners...That would mean a lot of lost votes. Also unfortunately any change would be backed up with false claims and half truths like in the ccpc case. I can imagine morneau or garneau trudeau or some other name ending in eau coming out trying to stir up outrage against the super gas guzzlers, or super cilinder rich:-)
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Sebastian6300 wrote:
Dec 8th, 2017 4:57 am
There would be better ways to collect the tax from the car owners. Maybe based on fuel economy, insurance value, etc. Instead of a big tax when you buy the car, the tax should be distributed equally. This would encourage people to update their cars more often.
Maybe that is what carbon tax is supposed to do?
Unfortunately our short sided politicians stay away from any change that affects all car owners...That would mean a lot of lost votes. Also unfortunately any change would be backed up with false claims and half truths like in the ccpc case. I can imagine morneau or garneau trudeau or some other name ending in eau coming out trying to stir up outrage against the super gas guzzlers, or super cilinder rich:-)
While they keep fuelling up the plane to create enormous carbon emissions flying from one global climate convention to the next. Hypocrisy at its finest. People really must be thoughtful when voting next time. One more election cycle with these guys and we might lose whatever we have left of Canada's greatness.
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choclover wrote:
Dec 8th, 2017 10:34 am
While they keep fuelling up the plane to create enormous carbon emissions flying from one global climate convention to the next. Hypocrisy at its finest. People really must be thoughtful when voting next time. One more election cycle with these guys and we might lose whatever we have left of Canada's greatness.
But we will have a nice photo album of selfies...
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I think the main change will be how CRA will interpret the rules, as we have seen in the widely publicised diabetes case. Even they claim that there was no change, they started "looking differently" at disability tax credit claims...
As the title of this thread says it, they might be looking with a different eye at CCPC's...especially after the frustration of trying to ram this legislation changes ( even though even cra said in some cases, that some of the rules make no sense)
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choclover wrote:
Dec 3rd, 2017 11:03 am
Agreed about wishing the election was next year but I don't think people will forget. I've never seen so much outrage and backlash about a tax policy before. It's almost like no politician would dare do something so bold and in your face as these guys did. And I'm not even bringing in the conflict of interest stuff. I really hope people do not vote Liberal though. There still seem to be a lot of supporters out there that don't get what is going on right now. It's like our society is divided. On the one side we have the people who are working hard in their businesses that are negatively affected by this tax policy. And on the other side we have people who are benefiting from all of the handouts that this government is using to make themselves look good while using the hardworking people as the direct funders of these "freebies".
Liberals take away Conservatives seat in Surrey...that's 2 seats they've lost in byelections already...
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Jermyzy wrote:
Dec 12th, 2017 12:45 am
Liberals take away Conservatives seat in Surrey...that's 2 seats they've lost in byelections already...
They are still looking very strong in the polls and even stronger in actual elections. Really hard to see a loss in 2019 barring a recession.
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These voters realize they will be the ones paying for this down the road, right?
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Jermyzy wrote:
Dec 12th, 2017 12:45 am
Liberals take away Conservatives seat in Surrey...that's 2 seats they've lost in byelections already...
I saw that. This is highly disappointing. What kind of Canada do Canadians want? Are the voters in these ridings people who highly benefit from the social programs and "free" cheques that this government has been giving out to distinct segments of Canadian society? i can't see how hardworking, taxpaying citizens would favour Liberal policies when they take more than what is equitable from hardworking Canadians to pay for programs that are not sustainable on their own but make Liberals look like Santa.
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choclover wrote:
Dec 12th, 2017 11:04 am
I saw that. This is highly disappointing. What kind of Canada do Canadians want? Are the voters in these ridings people who highly benefit from the social programs and "free" cheques that this government has been giving out to distinct segments of Canadian society? i can't see how hardworking, taxpaying citizens would favour Liberal policies when they take more than what is equitable from hardworking Canadians to pay for programs that are not sustainable on their own but make Liberals look like Santa.
Nobody pays for those giveaways..it is from borrowed money. That is a good election strategy: the liberals will keep borrowing, and when the conservatives win ( if ever..) they will be faced with huge debt, if they try to reduce it, will make them very unpopular, so the liberals win again.
The only exit from this is either a war, or a great recession
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Sebastian6300 wrote:
Dec 12th, 2017 12:30 pm
Nobody pays for those giveaways..it is from borrowed money. That is a good election strategy: the liberals will keep borrowing, and when the conservatives win ( if ever..) they will be faced with huge debt, if they try to reduce it, will make them very unpopular, so the liberals win again.
The only exit from this is either a war, or a great recession
It's probably a good time for everyone to research the sword of Damocles.

Bush doubled the US debt. Obama doubled it again. It can't be doubled a 3rd time, else that would put US debt at $114K for evey man, woman and child in the United States.
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Sebastian6300 wrote:
Dec 12th, 2017 12:30 pm
Nobody pays for those giveaways..it is from borrowed money. That is a good election strategy: the liberals will keep borrowing, and when the conservatives win ( if ever..) they will be faced with huge debt, if they try to reduce it, will make them very unpopular, so the liberals win again.
The only exit from this is either a war, or a great recession
This happened in Manitoba. NDP grew the debt throughout the 80s to unbearable levels, and Gary Filmon (conservative) was elected and hacked and slashed his way to fiscal prudence. The morons didn't like that, and elected the NDP after 10 years of Filmon to see Doer/Selinger go on a massive 17 year spending spree and leave Manitoba in another overly indebted position. Now Pallister is catching flak for trying to cut spending.

How are people this stupid? Maybe they aren't stupid, maybe they are maliciously narcissistic and give zero blue monkey **** about the working people's taxes that pay for all this debt. We definitely need something bad to happen to teach these voters a lesson in debt servicing costs. Someone to run for election with the sole purpose of burning the house down; no goals of re-election, just do whatever it takes to make it all implode. Make these voters suffer so they can actually see what these overspending government policies do.
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LeisureSuitL wrote:
Dec 12th, 2017 2:42 pm
This happened in Manitoba. NDP grew the debt throughout the 80s to unbearable levels, and Gary Filmon (conservative) was elected and hacked and slashed his way to fiscal prudence. The morons didn't like that, and elected the NDP after 10 years of Filmon to see Doer/Selinger go on a massive 17 year spending spree and leave Manitoba in another overly indebted position. Now Pallister is catching flak for trying to cut spending.

How are people this stupid? Maybe they aren't stupid, maybe they are maliciously narcissistic and give zero blue monkey **** about the working people's taxes that pay for all this debt. We definitely need something bad to happen to teach these voters a lesson in debt servicing costs. Someone to run for election with the sole purpose of burning the house down; no goals of re-election, just do whatever it takes to make it all implode. Make these voters suffer so they can actually see what these overspending government policies do.
I think this is because people are selfish...keep borrowing and live nice...who cares if our children will have to pay...that is their problem..And they don't seem to care: they are not involved in politics...they don't vote...they like trudeau because he is young....what they don't seem to care is that justin has his trusts, and he will pay little for his sins...he will have even a nice gov pension...I also noticed that the gov propaganda has become very sly. People are bombarded with gov ads and press releases, that sound like they are water heater salesmen.. there is no fine print in gov ads...telling you that tuition is free for "SOME"...but most of the others pay more then before for it... Yes there will be a hydro reduction, but no word of the madoff accounting used to pay for it...
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This will be one heck of an expensive lesson for future Canadians...

Sad to see another seat go Liberal.

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