turning right in the 2nd lane

[HondaScott]

Is it against the law to turn right on a red light (once you've done a complete stop) and there is no sign saying you cannot turn on the red light in the 2nd lane because there is another car in the turning lane?

[3weddings]

Is it against the law to turn right on a red light (once you've done a complete stop) and there is no sign saying you cannot turn on the red light in the 2nd lane because there is another car in the turning lane?

To say that a driver (I assume you are) is asking this scares me!!!!!!

[TripleHelix]

Is it against the law to turn right on a red light (once you've done a complete stop) and there is no sign saying you cannot turn on the red light in the 2nd lane because there is another car in the turning lane?

Shouldn't you be in the turning lane also then?

[HondaScott]

I would of been in the turning lane but the guy driving was blocking me from turning as he was going straight.

[Flyer]

So where were you going or what were you doing that was so damned urgent that you could not wait an extra minute or two?

[3weddings]

I would of been in the turning lane but the guy driving was blocking me from turning as he was going straight.

you're asking to be flogged!!! Incredible!!

[ronwel]

I would of been in the turning lane but the guy driving was blocking me from turning as he was going straight.

The person in the right lane has the right to go straight. It is completely illegal, dangerous and incredibly stupid to think that you could turn right, crossing infront of another car. Wait your turn like a rational person or get off the road.

[thelefteyeguy]

So where were you going or what were you doing that was so damned urgent that you could not wait an extra minute or two?

sometimes it's like 10mins...ie Sheppard / Bayview at rush hour...it sucks but cars get caught cause once a week a cop is stationed there

[Jon Lai]

Yes, it is illegal and dangerous!

Proper form is to wait behind the car in the right turn lane, unless there are two lanes DEDICATED for right turns.

Pretty sure all such intersections have a "NO RIGHT ON RED" sign.

Sounds like the intersection OP is talking about is where there is not a dedicated right turn lane. Just wait.

[gman]

Pretty sure all such intersections have a "NO RIGHT ON RED" sign.

Sounds like the intersection OP is talking about is where there is not a dedicated right turn lane. Just wait.

No. 401 west bound goes out in Lesile. That 2 right turn lane do not have that sign (or at least, it did not have that sign).
Same as 404 north bound, goes out in Steeles or goes out in Hwy 7.

[Jon Lai]

No. 401 west bound goes out in Lesile. That 2 right turn lane do not have that sign (or at least, it did not have that sign).
Same as 404 north bound, goes out in Steeles or goes out in Hwy 7.

I forgot about highway exits. I'm sure what I said applies to *most* 4 way intersections though.

[gh05t]

This happens a lot on the off ramps from the highway. And though there are no signs my thinking is that it is ok to turn right from the middle lane which also has arrows showing you can go left and right BUT only on a green light.

Only the person in the rightmost lane may turn right on the red light after coming to a complete stop unless otherwise specified by signs saying no right turn on red signal.

The person in the middle lane must wait till the light is green again before turning right or left.

Saw a female driver make the right turn from the middle lane on a red light recently and another female driver making the right from the rightmost lane went directly into the middle lane instead of the rightmost lane on the straight thereby cutting off the middle lane turner and almost causing a collision.

Both of them made illegal turns and no cop was present unfortunately. The only thing missing from the equation was a cellphone at the ear of both or either one of them.

[fastlayne]

This happens a lot on the off ramps from the highway. And though there are no signs my thinking is that it is ok to turn right from the middle lane which also has arrows showing you can go left and right BUT only on a green light.

Only the person in the rightmost lane may turn right on the red light after coming to a complete stop unless otherwise specified by signs saying no right turn on red signal.

The person in the middle lane must wait till the light is green again before turning right or left.

Saw a female driver make the right turn from the middle lane on a red light recently and another female driver making the right from the rightmost lane went directly into the middle lane instead of the rightmost lane on the straight thereby cutting off the middle lane turner and almost causing a collision.

Both of them made illegal turns and no cop was present unfortunately. The only thing missing from the equation was a cellphone at the ear of both or either one of them.

HTA 141 refers to right turns where multiple lanes are designated. I do not see a specific mention that a turn on a red is only legal from the curb lane.

My favorite pastime is blasting my horn at drivers that can't understand that they can't slide 3 lanes to the left as we both make our right hand turns from our respective lanes.

Perhaps I have tooted at you at the 410 Southbound exit to Queen west.

[GangStarr]

No. 401 west bound goes out in Lesile. That 2 right turn lane do not have that sign (or at least, it did not have that sign).
Same as 404 north bound, goes out in Steeles or goes out in Hwy 7.

Good examples, I was thinking the same. I don't think there is anything illegal about making a right turn, from the second right most, right turn lane provided that your the first car and you can complete the turn in a safe manner.

edit

About the comment about someone going wide for a right turn from the curb lane and hitting the person making the right from the 2most right curb lane. Thats the fault of the driver pulling a right from the crub lane. Just like the double left turn lanes, people always go wide from the inside. Idiots.

[Jon Lai]

This happens a lot on the off ramps from the highway. And though there are no signs my thinking is that it is ok to turn right from the middle lane which also has arrows showing you can go left and right BUT only on a green light.

Only the person in the rightmost lane may turn right on the red light after coming to a complete stop unless otherwise specified by signs saying no right turn on red signal.

The person in the middle lane must wait till the light is green again before turning right or left.

Saw a female driver make the right turn from the middle lane on a red light recently and another female driver making the right from the rightmost lane went directly into the middle lane instead of the rightmost lane on the straight thereby cutting off the middle lane turner and almost causing a collision.

Both of them made illegal turns and no cop was present unfortunately. The only thing missing from the equation was a cellphone at the ear of both or either one of them.

What? If there is not a "NO RIGHT ON RED" sign, the middle laner should also be able to turn right on red. Unless the HTA has a rule on this, I think this is how the way it should go.

More like, the car on the rightmost lane should always turn right to the rightmost lane of the perpendicular street.

I can never understand why right turners keep turning to the left lane while left turners keep turning to the right lane.