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Their policy is explained on the web site (i.e. if you do anything unusual, such as summer courses, you should have a reasonable explanation in your personal statement.)... and if you have questions, why not ask them? They're very nice - if you tell them you're considering doing X or Y, and you're concerned about the admissions consequence of either choice, they'll probably look at your info and tell you what your chances of getting in are...Originally Posted by pop9751
...and yes, they care about the school you got your undergrad degree from, IMO. Maybe a spectacular LSAT will make them overlook it, maybe not.
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Oct 29th, 2009 08:04 PM #1Newbie
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U of T Law School Question
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I was wondering if U of T Law school accepts summer courses, and also how much they care about the school which one received their undergrad degree from. I would appreciate any advice!
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Oct 29th, 2009 09:59 PM #3Deal Fanatic
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Okay, then explain to me where all the people from Brock or Bishop's or Carleton or Trent or ______________ were in MY law school class? There sure weren't too many. Originally Posted by UWO Engineer
There are two options:
a) the law school doesn't think too highly of degrees from those universities, so they admit far fewer of their graduates, or
b) the people who go to those universities are morons who get lousy LSAT scores and therefore are not admitted on that basis,
(well, or c) people from those universities don't bother applying.)
If you're telling me it's not a), then you're saying it's b)? Reply With Quote
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Oct 30th, 2009 07:43 AM #4I was looking at the admittance for Osgoode this year, and can not say I disagree with above post. Here are some of the stats (as of July 28/09)... Originally Posted by VivienM
Entering class of 09.
68% have an Honours degree
17% have an Graduate degree
11% have an ordinary B.A.
Average LSAT
90+ 32%
80-89 52%
<80 16%
Prelaw Study
Humanities 24%
Social Sciences 44%
Pure Sciences 13%
Business 19%
CGPA
3.70+ 38%
3.50-3.69 29%
3.33-3.49 22%
<3.33 11%
I get the vibe (and could be wrong) that the poster you are responding to has something against the lawschools or the process of them, based on posts on this forum anyway...
I would like an example of someone who got into a law school with a diploma in fashion... Reply With Quote
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Oct 30th, 2009 09:27 AM #5Newbie
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hi guys umm well ok i actually currently attend u of t for buisness but i'm thinking of switching to like the arts b/c last year i kinda just picked buisness (not sure why)and its not hard or anything but i enjoy things like english and like peace and conflict studies etc. better. and so i was thinking if i should just switch to that at u of t or if i should just take a possibly easier route(based on info i have read) and go to york where maybe possibly a b.a would be easier to get..... anyways thanks for your input so far.
ps. good idea bout calling them i shall possibly try that (except for the york question obviously lol)
pps. the only reason i would take summer school is to just try and catch up with the new degree's prereq's so i wouldn't fall behind + if possible finish my degree earlier (i am not a fan of school in general) Reply With Quote
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Oct 30th, 2009 10:15 AM #6Well a Business degree is superior to an arts degree (if you are seeking employment after the undergrad). Originally Posted by pop9751
If you enjoy english and conflict studies and think you will get better marks at it than switch. You are better off staying at U of T if your plan is to apply to U of T's law program (not sure about credit transfers or how far you are into your program). IDK how much easier a undergrad is at York as opposed to U of T, in an identical program but it is probably not much of a big difference in a english/conflict studies program. IMO, if you can not get the marks in the undergrad at UofT to get into law school than it will be the same at York. Plus your LSAT score is of signifigant importance, and the school you attend does not change that.
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actually im in first year lol but thanks for the advice! you guys are very useful + ps. i dont think arts would be hard at u of t but im just saying if there's an easier way to spend my next 3 years i rather do things that way if you understand what im saying lol
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Oct 30th, 2009 11:26 AM #8Oh, was not aware you were in 1st year. Then switching is not a big deal, though I do not understand why you would want to move from U of T to York. It probably will not be that much easier if it is easier at all. It does depend on the courses and professors. Originally Posted by pop9751
As for summer courses, you can take them and they are looked at. From what I understand (someone else would have to confirm) they look at your GPA mainily from your 3000/4000 level classes (3rd, 4th year classes) but your overall GPA is looked at. Reply With Quote
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Oct 30th, 2009 12:14 PM #9Newbie
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ohh ok thanks so much, just out of curiousity are you a u of t student yoursefl?
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That can't be. Originally Posted by phomp
See, they're making phone calls to offer admission to people in late November, early December. The actual Big Huge offer packages are mailed out early January...
If you're currently in 4th year undergrad, what 4th year grades can they be looking at in mid-November?
(And BTW, this is why anybody who applies to law school without having an LSAT score already graded and ready is playing a very risky game. MANY admissions decisions are made way before the December LSAT results are in...)
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Oct 31st, 2009 03:31 PM #11I had a meeting with the chair of the U of T Law Admissions Committee roughly three years ago. He asked what school I went to for undergrad. I told him and his reply was along the lines of "Good, we have had better luck from [that school] than other schools [in the area]." So while law schools absolutely take students from everywhere, the reputation of the school does matter. Originally Posted by UWO Engineer
No. Originally Posted by VivienM
Law Schools always have been and always will be a numbers game. Most Canadian schools have said they're moving to a "holistic" approach to admissions, which takes into account more then raw numbers. But the fact of the matter is it still is a numbers game. If you have a 4.0 GPA from Windsor, Brock, Queens or UofT it doesn't matter. Hell, I can go to college and gain admission to law school from a god danm fashion program.
They may put some weight on it, but its negligable. It's like saying they care what major you come from, they dont or they give you an extra 1% if your major is decidedly "hard." Doesn't matter either way. Reply With Quote
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a very point that is consistent with that I have been told by others Originally Posted by VivienM
That can't be.
See, they're making phone calls to offer admission to people in late November, early December. The actual Big Huge offer packages are mailed out early January...
If you're currently in 4th year undergrad, what 4th year grades can they be looking at in mid-November?
(Wow, this is my 5000th post.)
that said, it is exactly what I am doing_______________
Would you be willing to pay $58 more for an iPod produced in North America?
My Answer: NO. I get the same Ipod with the same functionality...where is the the benefit to me? As, I've said before, I will get more out of my $58 dollars by lighting it on fire, because it will produce heat. If I wipe my a$$ with that $58 dollars, I will need to buy less toilet paper. IF I buy the made in North America Ipod for $58 more, I get absolutely nothing more out of it. Reply With Quote
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...out of curiousity what school did u go to for your undergrad/did you get into law school? Originally Posted by bkustra
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Nov 1st, 2009 04:01 PM #14I'm currently a third year law student at U of T. Originally Posted by pop9751
I'm going to refrain from disclosing where I went to undergrad. Reply With Quote
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oh really that's so cool! so are you enjoying law school? Originally Posted by bkustra
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