unprestige Universities

[pirate]

everyone here talks about the prestige schools what about the other ones like
McMaster ,Windsor ,york, Univ od Ottawa, carleton...anyone go to these? how are their buisness programs? any luck finding jobs after graduating? Was it hard?

realistically i doubt ill get into shulic or ivey i have a mid 80's to a high 80's avg in my courses with some extracurricular. was wondering about the other universties for buisness which r also good

[x86asm]

Take a look at FearSonic's thread, I think someone will post a link.

[littledevil]

Its great how everyone here just thinks of waterloo and utoronto to be the first class universities. But here is a report card from the globe and mail.
http://www.adm.uwaterloo.ca/infoiap/.../G10Report.pdf

Read and see that some of the universities that OP and others on this board think are unprestegious actually get a much better ranking than waterloo and toronto! Food for thought..

PS:- When I had applied for schools I was admitted to Waterloo, Toronto, McMaster, Queens and Western all with comparable scholarships. I ended up going to mcmaster and do not regret my decision at all. I had an internship that was on par with higher end co-ops from waterloo and after graduating worked at one of the big four. Most of my collegues were from Waterloo and I was not too impressed with what they had to offer. I am sure there are great students at waterloo but there are also great students at every other university! I am back at McMaster for graduate school. The friendliness of professors and staff are what helped me go back as opposed to picking waterloo or uoft.

[commie]

everyone here talks about the prestige schools what about the other ones like
McMaster ,Windsor ,york, Univ od Ottawa, carleton...anyone go to these? how are their buisness programs? any luck finding jobs after graduating? Was it hard?

realistically i doubt ill get into shulic or ivey i have a mid 80's to a high 80's avg in my courses with some extracurricular. was wondering about the other universties for buisness which r also good

Depending on what areas of business you want to go into, it really doesn't matter what university you goto.....If you are interested in Accounting...
Most of the Big 4 firms will recruit at all those universities..
Only matters if you want to get into consulting or investment banking..

Also, Schulich = York....

Another alternative, if you really want to goto a certain school, and can't get in for 1st year....You could goto a 'lesser' school and work your arse off, and get a B+ to A average and transfer to that school....Most universities accept 2nd year transfer students, and give the advance standings...

BTW - besides the ones you listed, a good business school that is still relatively easier to get into is Laurier...They have an excellent undergrad business program.

[pirate]

Its great how everyone here just thinks of waterloo and utoronto to be the first class universities. But here is a report card from the globe and mail.
http://www.adm.uwaterloo.ca/infoiap/.../G10Report.pdf

Read and see that some of the universities that OP and others on this board think are unprestegious actually get a much better ranking than waterloo and toronto! Food for thought..

PS:- When I had applied for schools I was admitted to Waterloo, Toronto, McMaster, Queens and Western all with comparable scholarships. I ended up going to mcmaster and do not regret my decision at all. I had an internship that was on par with higher end co-ops from waterloo and after graduating worked at one of the big four. Most of my collegues were from Waterloo and I was not too impressed with what they had to offer. I am sure there are great students at waterloo but there are also great students at every other university! I am back at McMaster for graduate school. The friendliness of professors and staff are what helped me go back as opposed to picking waterloo or uoft.

wow there really putting down U of T on that report, it is rated last on all of the criteria

btw which r the universities to go to for investment banking?

[commie]

wow there really putting down U of T on that report, it is rated last on all of the criteria

btw which r the universities to go to for investment banking?

Investment banking, first tier would be Queen's, Ivey, McGill....Then Schulich and Rotman.

[Sylvestre]

unversity reputation means very very little in the entire lifespan of your career.
The school you graduated from will affect your chances of your first job but after that your experience takes precedent on all hiring matters.

Even more so, in this day and age, you don't stop with just a degree. most professions have desinations (p.eng, cfa, etc) and those also trump the name of the school you attended.

[poedua]

Check out where the University of Waterloo ranks in the international ranking of the world's best overall universities ...good luck finding it !

[Narci]

I think it depends on what field you want to be in.

Doctor? UT is good.

Lawyer? York is good.

Computer Engineer? Waterloo is good (MSFT hires alot from waterloo exclusively even co-op)

[konfusion666]

nobody should expect it to be on a list of "overrall" universities. mostly everyone knows that it's targeted for undergrad degrees in a few particular fields.

for goodness' sake, it doesn't have a Medical school or a Law school, so of course it's not going make any "overrall" lists. you'd have to be dense to expect it on them...

the only reason it gets trumped up a lot on this forum is because of the tech-savvy nature of RFD; there's a large number of engineers and computer technologists here who attended that school.

[Bordello]

Doctor? UT is good.

Not really. Any Canadian university is good.

[devious9191]

unversity reputation means very very little in the entire lifespan of your career.
The school you graduated from will affect your chances of your first job but after that your experience takes precedent on all hiring matters.

Even more so, in this day and age, you don't stop with just a degree. most professions have desinations (p.eng, cfa, etc) and those also trump the name of the school you attended.

Good post, particularly for business. If you're planning on a higher level position in finance, accounting or investments, etc, you're probably going to be looking at either doing some post graduate work, and/or designations anyways. Where you do your post grad, or what designations you have is going to be much more important than where you did your undergraduate when you're looking for your first position in your field.

And if you're only doing a business degree, noone's going to care where you got it from.. those things are a dime a dozen, no matter what school you go to.

[poedua]

nobody should expect it to be on a list of "overrall" universities. mostly everyone knows that it's targeted for undergrad degrees in a few particular fields.

for goodness' sake, it doesn't have a Medical school or a Law school, so *of course* it's not going make any "overrall" lists. you'd have to be dense to expect it on them...

the only reason it gets trumped up a lot in this forum because due to the tech-savvy nature of RFD, there's a large number of engineers and computer technologists here who attended that school.

i agree...it's just the way people go on and on and on about Waterloo...you''d think it was Harvard North or something !

[Rehan]

And if you're only doing a business degree, noone's going to care where you got it from.. those things are a dime a dozen, no matter what school you go to.

On the other hand, if you do well in undergrad then you'll have a much better chance of getting a job on Wall Street/Bay Street if you're a new business graduate from Queen's than you would if you just finished at somewhere like University of New Brunswick.

[konfusion666]

i agree...it's just the way people go on and on and on about Waterloo...you''d think it was Harvard North or something !

harvard north nope - that would be either McGill or U of T.
two universities which americans & europeans might actually have heard of...

Waterloo could be "MIT North" - or at least "MIT Lite North"

the same type of people who strive to get into MIT are those who strive to get into Waterloo although i suspect due to the latter's strong co-op program, you tend to get more job-focussed people at waterloo as opposed to "nerds".