US now bullying Taiwan to buy $10B in arms

[espeed]

So if anyone refuses to give into US demands, the US chides them?

Once again, America turns into a big bully. Just cuz they used up their money bombing Iraqis and Afghans, doesn't mean that they have the right to force other nations to cough up money so the US can do more damage around the world

http://www.dawn.com/2005/10/22/int16.htm

[Shaner]

Don't spread propoganda BS!

What you're saying is true, but you're putting a spin on it that makes it complete crap!

The US is legally bound to defend Taiwan, they have no choice. But, the US knows that China is a powerhouse and the last thing the US wants is to have to engage in a fight with China to defend Taiwan.

The US wants Taiwan to defend itself against China so that the US and China can continue improving relations between the two countries. Nobody else but the US can sell Taiwan those kinds of arms.

Russia would never sell Taiwan weapons because Russia and China are extremely close and Russia can't afford to piss of China. We sure can't provide those kinds of weapons.

The US isn't forcing them to buy weapons, but they are mad that Taiwan isn't trying to defend itself because they know that the US has to defend them.

[toalan]

Don't spread propoganda BS!

What you're saying is true, but you're putting a spin on it that makes it complete crap!

The US is legally bound to defend Taiwan, they have no choice. But, the US knows that China is a powerhouse and the last thing the US wants is to have to engage in a fight with China to defend Taiwan.

The US wants Taiwan to defend itself against China so that the US and China can continue improving relations between the two countries. Nobody else but the US can sell Taiwan those kinds of arms.

Russia would never sell Taiwan weapons because Russia and China are extremely close and Russia can't afford to piss of China. We sure can't provide those kinds of weapons.

The US isn't forcing them to buy weapons, but they are mad that Taiwan isn't trying to defend itself because they know that the US has to defend them.

The US is legally bound to defend tiawan? WTF is it in the Taiwan constitution?

The US wants to make money and not get its own soldiers killed, Just like equipping Saddam and Osama in the 80s, US is trying to fight another war using its dirty tacics. I will you what will happen, China will invade Tiawan and the americans will do sqat, 5 years later Taiwanese will bomb americans and the Americans will call all asians terrorists.

As we speak right now the US is probally training taiwan soilders and probally has sold taiwan much more than 10b in weapons, the US is probally showing taiwan how to make and use WMDs.

[philelmo]

Don't spread propoganda BS!

What you're saying is true, but you're putting a spin on it that makes it complete crap!

The US is legally bound to defend Taiwan, they have no choice. But, the US knows that China is a powerhouse and the last thing the US wants is to have to engage in a fight with China to defend Taiwan.

The US wants Taiwan to defend itself against China so that the US and China can continue improving relations between the two countries. Nobody else but the US can sell Taiwan those kinds of arms.

Russia would never sell Taiwan weapons because Russia and China are extremely close and Russia can't afford to piss of China. We sure can't provide those kinds of weapons.

The US isn't forcing them to buy weapons, but they are mad that Taiwan isn't trying to defend itself because they know that the US has to defend them.

huh, WTF too!? legally bound? crazy.. You dunno what you're talking about. It's just history that these 2 were linked in the Cultural revolution. USA didn't want communist power to rise cuz the taiwanese (chinese KMT then) were capitalists, but very corrupted!

That's were you get corruption movies like Shanghai Beach!

[ChinpokoMon]

There is currently no mutual defense treaty between U.S. and Taiwan. The United States is not legally obligated to send in its own military to defend Taiwan if it is attacked by China (whether it choose to is a different matter).

Here is a quote from an article on the Taiwan Relations Act:

This act also requires the United States "to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character", and "to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan." However, it does not necessarily require the United States to take any military action against the PRC in the event of an attack.

[Ojam]

China wont attack Taiwan, it's all political to raise support for the current government. Taiwan is a major investor in mainland china, if China was to lose that it would hurt their economy.

[MizTEcK]

^that is true, but in recent years Mainland has been making policies to provide alot of incentives for Taiwanese industries to relocate in mainland... so you never know

[GTA_]

Taiwan is a big investor in mainland and a huge asset to China. Now why on earth China should attack Taiwan, pick a fight with US and destabilize the whole region?

It does not make sense, China is simply using Taiwan as a tool for domestic policy, focusing attention outside of mainland.

[b166er1337]

Which is the bigger bully?

The one that is making money selling defensive weapons to Taiwan?

Or the one that is threatening to attck & aiming 700 missiles ?

[aquariaguy]

Which is the bigger bully?

The one that is making money selling defensive weapons to Taiwan?

Or the one that is threatening to attck & aiming 700 missiles ?

The one that is making money selling defensive weapons to Taiwan? <-- is the bigger bully. Since it had 1000 tanks ready to attack and aiming at Iraq...and guess where they are now...

[Xtahse]

it's not gonna happen
China won't attack Taiwan.

This has been going on for so long. like back in the 2000? China said they were gonna take Taiwan back. but.. uh it never happened.

It's just rumor.
China just wants Taiwan not keep saying they want indepent, which is not gonna happen..
so everyone will be happy.. live their own life

[espeed]

Don't spread propoganda BS!

What you're saying is true, but you're putting a spin on it that makes it complete crap!

The US is legally bound to defend Taiwan, they have no choice.

whoa, strong reaction dude.

The US wants Taiwan to defend itself against China so that the US and China can continue improving relations between the two countries. Nobody else but the US can sell Taiwan those kinds of arms.

BS. The US would rather allow Taiwan and China fight each other than sacrifice American soldiers. The term "improving relations" is a political term that sounds good. If the US is so concerned about improving relations, it would not send Rumsfeld to China to say that China is "hiding" military spending, or develop military relationships with Japan, India and other countries in an effort to contain China.

[gman]

Don't spread propoganda BS!

What you're saying is true, but you're putting a spin on it that makes it complete crap!

The US is legally bound to defend Taiwan, they have no choice. But, the US knows that China is a powerhouse and the last thing the US wants is to have to engage in a fight with China to defend Taiwan.

The US wants Taiwan to defend itself against China so that the US and China can continue improving relations between the two countries. Nobody else but the US can sell Taiwan those kinds of arms.

Russia would never sell Taiwan weapons because Russia and China are extremely close and Russia can't afford to piss of China. We sure can't provide those kinds of weapons.

The US isn't forcing them to buy weapons, but they are mad that Taiwan isn't trying to defend itself because they know that the US has to defend them.

Depends on how you view it, it is okay for US to tell Taiwan to protect themselves or else.

If that really is the only thing US wants, Taiwan does not have to buy it from US. Taiwan can buy that from Europe, Isreal, etc. Taiwan does not have to buy the overpriced US arm. At least, not until Taiwan asks for that.

[gman]

Which is the bigger bully?

The one that is making money selling defensive weapons to Taiwan?

Or the one that is threatening to attck & aiming 700 missiles ?

Does it matter? Or, you feel sorry for Taiwan. So, Taiwan was bullied by mainland China and now is bullied by his own buddy.

Bully China threaten the poor kid, Taiwan. Now, buddy US asks the poor kid, Taiwan has to buy his overprice Xbox. Otherwise, he is not going to protect Taiwan. No, you can't buy it from Ebay or futureshop.

[felixdd]

There is currently no mutual defense treaty between U.S. and Taiwan. The United States is not legally obligated to send in its own military to defend Taiwan if it is attacked by China (whether it choose to is a different matter).

Here is a quote from an article on the Taiwan Relations Act:

Yeah but hasn't the US administration made it clear to the world that if China attacks, US will side with Taiwan?

At least, that would be consistent with the American ideology of democracy. Of course, stranger things have happened while this administration is in power.