USA: Bullies of the world?

[najibs]

It seems as though the USA makes it seem that whatever they demand the world to do is the correct thing. Certain countries are not allowed to have nuclear bombs because they say so. When France refuses to go to Iraq they call them traitors. But yet, when it comes to making the world cleaner with the Kyoto protocol, they're not willing to support it because it will "slow down the economy"...what a bunch of BS! They always diss all the countries that go against them and somehow the white house always manages to justify it with a bunch of lies. The Iraq war, torturing prisoners, inhumane treatment of prisoners...etc...Even ex-President Bill Clinton is against what the current White House is up to. I admire Bill Clinton, he was a good president. He wasn't like Bush demanding war all the time. Ever since Clinton left office, the country went downhill.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americ....ap/index.html

I'm glad I'm a Canuck!

[Peter Pan]

"They hate us because they hate our freedom."

[Emancipated]

Freedom comes at a cost; unfortunately for the rest of the world, they have to bear the burden of the price.

This message has been brough to you by the coalition of we don't give a flying funk!

[poedua]

It seems as though the USA makes it seem that whatever they demand the world to do is the correct thing. Certain countries are not allowed to have nuclear bombs because they say so. When France refuses to go to Iraq they call them traitors. But yet, when it comes to making the world cleaner with the Kyoto protocol, they're not willing to support it because it will "slow down the economy"...what a bunch of BS! They always diss all the countries that go against them and somehow the white house always manages to justify it with a bunch of lies. The Iraq war, torturing prisoners, inhumane treatment of prisoners...etc...Even ex-President Bill Clinton is against what the current White House is up to. I admire Bill Clinton, he was a good president. He wasn't like Bush demanding war all the time. Ever since Clinton left office, the country went downhill.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americ....ap/index.html

I'm glad I'm a Canuck!

Nothing new.

Virtually everyone on RFD has ' no respect ' ........ though terms like reviled, despised, hated, contemptuous, maligned, mockery, detest, butchers, invaders, thugs, bullies, scum, war criminals, imperialists , animals, vicious, sadistic, infidels , "blood-sucking bastards" , "the louts of colonialism ", killers, " superpower of villains ", "wild donkeys", 'The children of pigs', "Sick dogs", "gangster Bush" ," drunken junkie nose of Bush" , those crooks, those mercenaries , "the insane little dwarf Bush",snakes in the desert, "the most despicable creatures." have also been used...........for the American administrations & military forces - of present and past ( WW 2, Vietnam , etc. ) ..with good reason.... in most cases.

This is just a guess mind you, but my hunch is when it comes to American foreign policy, the criticism & the rehtoric it fuels on RFD is easily ' 90% + '...... ' anti- american '.

Although, I have a sense most RFDers don't have a problem with the American citizens themselves.

[Spent]

Good one Peter Pan- must be a Daily Show fan, too

Dead american soldiers total is now 2141 to say nothing of the tens of thousands of innocent dead iraqis
Too bad some of the ignorant neo-cons that sent them there,
aren't dead too

[Ojam]

and between 15,000 and 48,000 wounded. Lets hope its the lower of the two, and they are all "minor" but even one "minor" injury is to many.

[poedua]

Good one Peter Pan- must be a Daily Show fan, too

Dead american soldiers total is now 2141 to say nothing of the tens of thousands of innocent dead iraqis
Too bad some of the ignorant neo-cons that sent them there,
aren't dead too

Does anyone know how many Iraqis have been killed so far ?

That state doesn't seem to get discussed nearly enough as it should...thos poor civiliansare the one's paying the geatest price in all of this IMO

Anyone know ?

[Ojam]

Does anyone know how many Iraqis have been killed so far ?

That state doesn't seem to get discussed nearly enough as it should...thos poor civiliansare the one's paying the geatest price in all of this IMO

Anyone know ?

Between 27,000 and 31,000

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

[gei]

The world was built by conquerors, not by whining babies.

Of course they can be bullies... they have the power to enforce whatever decisions they make (or impose on others).

[poedua]

Between 27,000 and 31,000

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

Thanks ...that's sickening...this war has to stop !

[poedua]

The world was built by conquerors, not by whining babies.

Of course they can be bullies... they have the power to enforce whatever decisions they make (or impose on others).

Conquerors such as ?

[Emancipated]

Conquerors such as ?

The Romans.

[gaurav_fhs]

In a way, like every other mega power, they are merely trying to maintain their dominance. Consider the following fact. By the end of the 2nd world war, America's GDP was half of Earth's! Today, that number is less than half that. (Mind you, I prefer measuring economic strength on PPP bases).

And being capitalistic (like many, maybe most, other countries), war is a smart way to gain income. As long as the average American remains significantly wealthier than his Asian, African or even European counterpart, the ultimate aim of pax Americana is sustained. Its a tug of war in a sense...each country is trying to increase the wealth of its citizens through economic practises, idealogy or partnerships.

Yes, they are bullies, but only because they need to be to be the best in the business. I, gave up on "world peace" and "one single human race" hippie thoughts a long time back. Although some moderation still keeps us human

Of course that doesnt mean other countries will go along with it or that this motion is "just" or "right". Each one of us strives to be the best in a field. And the best tries to stay that way!

Greed is good. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed cuts through, clarifies, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit.

[devious9191]

I have a hard time trying to figure out how you guys don't get tired of the anti-us bs threads... since they all say exactly the same thing, and conveniently ignore the fact that the US has probably done more 'good' internationally, than any other two countries combined.

Their people give more in charity than any other country.. the government spends more on foreign aid than any other country, and their military not only protects their own democracy, it protects ours, and tries to bring it to places that would otherwise be dictatorships.

So, I can appreciate the fact that some of you disagree with their foreign policy.. however, it's fair to say that they're the only country in the world that actually has a foreign policy that isn't hip deep in UN bureaucracy, to ***** about. And it isn't fair to say that everything they do is based solely on their own economy, as that simply isn't the case.

So, when you guys live in a country that goes out of their way to prevent genocide, remove dictatorship, and provide support for countries that can't support themselves.. maybe you could have some kind of claim to the moral high ground.. but when you live in a country that half the world probably couldn't even point at on a map, and has done nothing for anyone outside of our own borders, you really don't have a right to criticize the ones that do.

[wiggy]

Conquerors such as ?

The French under Napoleon.

The Spanish in the New World.