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[Always] Usenet Deals ... Ongoing

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Deals post by 9000cc

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- DMCA Information (link)
- What is Usenet? (1, 2)
- NZB Indexers and Search Engines (google docs link)
- Run your own personal NZB indexer (link)
(includes Sabnzbd & Sickbeard integration)

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FREE USENET Providers (thanks to infamouskid for most of this info)

Xsusenet (1mbit speed limit, 10 day retention, 25GB/month):
http://xsusenet.com/

Free providers that require an IPv6 connection:
usenet-deals-read-first-post-best-deals ... st14146646

Just4Today (10 day retention)
http://just4today.net/

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Supernews (Giganews reseller)

It's $10US/month for unlimited or $100/year, 1538 day retention, 30 connections, EU/US servers, SSL.
http://www.supernews.com/superspecial.html#

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Block Accounts

If you go with a newsgroup provider like LightningUsenet that has a relatively short retention, you'll have to look at other options if you occasionally download things that are over the retention time-line. In the case of LightningUsenet, that's anything over 400 days old.

One option is to get an unlimited account (of which they are listed above). The other option is to go to other sources such as Bit-Torrent, or other download sites.

Another option staying within the newsgroup realm is to get a block account. You basically pre-pay for a chunk of download capacity (usually sold in GB's) that you can use. It's great because with a NZB downloader like SABnzbd, you can assign a backup newsgroup server. What this does is when your primary provider is missing pieces (for any reason, but including if it's past retention), it will automatically try to download using the provider you assign as your backup.

Here are some good options below:
Keep in mind that a good backup service should be from a different provider from your primary service. So if you have a Highwinds reseller, go with a non-Highwinds based company for a backup. Or if you have Astraweb, get a non-Astraweb block... etc.

The prices for 500GB and up for Blocknews is poor since NewsGroupDirect offers its Terabyte Tuesday deal once a month (1000GB for $50US), which works out to $5 cents per GB. But I mean it's not a good deal unless you use it. For light users, Blocknews is pretty good. For heavier users, wait for NGD's monthly Terabyte Tuesday deal.

LightningUsenet is about $5.00/month and you get 500 days of retention. A block account is a good way to be able to download stuff with older retention, if you occasionally have the need (many of the usenet clients have the ability to setup a backup news server if the primary one doesn't have the bins you're looking for).

A good unlimited usenet account is about $10/month, so if you spend less than $5/month extra on a block account, it might be worth it for you. Another benefit of having two providers (an cheap unlimited short retention and a block account) is that if one provider doesn't have what you're looking for, you always have the second one that may have it.

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Who do I choose?
Highwinds is known as a value oriented provider. They're pretty cheap pricing wise. They had some reliability issues (completion rate) a few years ago, but seem to be good as of late. I'm with a Highwinds reseller (News Group Direct) and I'm happy with them. Many people have switched from Astraweb to NGD due to the better pricing and are happy with the service.

Some people want to have the most reliable provider in terms of completion, and the ones with the best reputation are Astraweb and Giganews (Supernews is its cheapest reseller). They haven't really had any major reliability issues, but they cost a little more than Highwinds resellers.

In any case, the major newsgroup providers all peer with each other, so you'll find that even if you have service through <insert provider name here>, you'll still download off the servers of a different provider (I connect to Astraweb servers regularly even though I'm with a Highwinds reseller). I would personally just go with a cheap provider, with a retention length you're looking for.

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A Quick "how-to" for Newsgroups (after signing up with a newsgroup provider)
  1. Get a newsgroup reader (I use SABNZBD+)
  2. Configure the reader with all the connection settings (address, port, SSL, # of connections, username/password)
  3. Get NZBs (kind of like a torrent file?) from a search engine or indexer (I use NZBMatrix, costs $11US for 10 year access)
  4. Load NZB into the reader
A more detailed guide to usenet:
http://www.slyck.com/ng.php

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Diagnosing Speed Issues

In general, a good way to test speed problems that crop up are to try the various means to connect to your newsgroup provider:
  • check your speed on an online speed tester like http://speedtest.net (keep in mind these tools report in bits, and your newsreader is usually in bytes - 8 bits in a byte)
  • try EU and US servers
  • try SSL and non-SSL
  • try different ports if your provider has a selection of them
Most providers I've seen have around 4-6 different combinations of the above to try. I'm tried theCubeNet, ThunderNews (currently with them) and NewsGroupDirect, and I've had temporary short term issues where I had to connect through a different method to max out my speed. They're also all Highwinds resellers.

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For those who have downloads that are missing pieces or if you have a block account or limited data transfer provided by your ISP and want to check if you can successfully download without wasting your credits...

You can use a tool called NZBcc to check your usenet service to confirm if all the pieces are available, or to see what blocks are missing.
http://www.zoon.dk/tag/nzbcc/

If block ## is missing on your primary, you can check your backup service. As long as each piece of the download is available from either of your providers, you are good to go.

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2011 Black Friday / Cyber Monday Deal Thread
usenet-newsgroup-deals-1106245/
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great deals...currently on atsraweb and believe i am paying $11US, this should be incentive enough to switch.
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Seems too good to be true. Can you confirm the price will stay at $6 per month? If it's indeed true.. this could be hot.
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treo22 wrote:
Mar 17th, 2011 2:53 pm
great deals...currently on atsraweb and believe i am paying $11US, this should be incentive enough to switch.

+1, I too am currently using astraweb at that price.
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Good find - almost on par with thundernews' $5/month Black Friday deal.
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DMCA Info

Without going into specific details, any provider with any resources (staff, offices, servers, backend) in the United States has to comply with DMCA takedown requests. There are lots of European providers who have all of their resources in Europe. So going with a fully European provider is good from a completion standpoint. But the downsides are lower speeds and retention, with higher pricing.

Because there are many more hops to distance to cover from us in Canada to Europe, speeds tend to be lower and inconsistent (especially during peak times). And prices are usually much higher compared to services in the US.

A good balance of benefits and cost is to get a primary server (block or unlimited) in the US, and a backup server (block account) in Europe.

A list of fully European providers can be found here:
http://www.ngprovider.com/euro-based-us ... viders.php (thanks riskit for sending this to me)

Keep in mind that Europe has its own copyright policies, and many EU providers have take-down request forms on their websites. It would be good to experiment with providers to see what works best.
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WiNgY17 wrote:
Mar 17th, 2011 2:54 pm
Seems too good to be true. Can you confirm the price will stay at $6 per month? If it's indeed true.. this could be hot.
Not really TGTBT as there have been a few other deals at $7/mnth and $5/mnth for life in the past few months.

More likely that the 900 day retention is TGTBT, though it's probably still very acceptable. Most of these cheaper services are just resellers of the larger guys.
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Matrx wrote:
Mar 17th, 2011 2:55 pm
Good find - almost on par with thundernews' $5/month Black Friday deal.

It looks like this host also had a $5 black friday deal (well... it was $5.10... same thing lol).
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WiNgY17 wrote:
Mar 17th, 2011 2:54 pm
+1, I too am currently using astraweb at that price.


If you email Astraweb support you should be able to get their $96/year deal (they'll send you a sign-up link).
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Anyone know if this is capable of being shared?
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Nothing to see here, just a backup of the first post in case I mess it up by accident.......
100GB Block for $7.99!
TheCubeNet: Expires 4/20
https://www.thecubenet.com/clients/cart ... taxday2012
ADBAWG wrote:
Jan 30th, 2012 5:45 pm
http://www.xsusenet.com/
Free Month of Premium Usenet

"Subscribe Now"
Country: United Kingdom
Choose: Premium One Month
Code: pcwelt_xsu

100mbit, SSL, 12 connections, 400 days retention!

No payment information needed. Details sent to your e-mail address! New accounts only. Tried to add code to my free account and it didn't accept it. Limited to one account per IP address.
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What is Usenet?? (1, 2)

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FREE USENET Providers (thanks to infamouskid for most of this info)

Xsusenet (1mbit speed limit, SSL, 400 day retention):
http://xsusenet.com/

Free providers that require an IPv6 connection:
usenet-deals-read-first-post-best-deals ... st14146646

Just4Today (10 day retention)
http://just4today.net/

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Sunny Usenet (independent provider) ... thanks to infamouskid for most of this info

It offers 900 day retention, SSL and account sharing.
http://www.sunnyusenet.com/pakketten

How to sign up: usenet-deals-read-first-post-best-deals ... st14149069

Price ranges from $2.33/month for 5mbit/s speed limit to $8.82/month for 90mbit/s speed limit. Unlimited speed is $10.12/month.

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TheCubeNet (Highwinds reseller)

$8.99/month for unlimited and $35 for 400GB block
http://thecubenet.com/canada.htm

1118+ days retention, No Expiration Date, 20 Connections, SSL Encryption, 24/7 Support, US and EU Servers. Sign up for the $7.99 monthly deal, get it for life.

If you have a faster internet connection and need 50 connections:
https://www.thecubenet.com/clients/cart.php?gid=3
$7.99/month if you pay yearly.

Block Specials: $50 1000GB | $100 2000GB | $200 4000GB
https://www.thecubenet.com/clients/cart.php?gid=14

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UsenetServer (Highwinds reseller) ... thanks infamouskid

It's $95.40US/year (prepaid... works out to $7.95/month) for unlimited, 1263 day retention, 20 connections, EU/US servers, SSL.
https://accounts.usenetserver.com/regis ... d=1086&m=4

So far they aren't blocking simultaneous logins from different IP's, so you may have luck with sharing an account from here.

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Supernews (Giganews reseller)

It's $10US/month for unlimited or $100/year, 1263 day retention, 30 connections, EU/US servers, SSL.
http://www.supernews.com/superspecial.html#

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Astraweb (independent provider)

It's $96/year for unlimited service, 1262 day retention, 20 connections, EU/US servers, SSL.
http://www.news.astraweb.com/specials/v ... lhxfr2cwsw

They also have a pretty good block account deal: $50/1TB

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Block Accounts

If you go with a newsgroup provider like LightningUsenet that has a relatively short retention, you'll have to look at other options if you occasionally download things that are over the retention time-line. In the case of LightningUsenet, that's anything over 400 days old.

One option is to get an unlimited account (of which they are listed above). The other option is to go to other sources such as Bit-Torrent, or other download sites.

Another option staying within the newsgroup realm is to get a block account. You basically pre-pay for a chunk of download capacity (usually sold in GB's) that you can use. It's great because with a NZB downloader like SABnzbd, you can assign a backup newsgroup server. What this does is when your primary provider is missing pieces (for any reason, but including if it's past retention), it will automatically try to download using the provider you assign as your backup.

Here are some good options below:
  • NewsGroupDirect has a monthly Terabyte Tuesday deal (check thread for updates): $50/1TB (Highwinds Reseller)
  • BlockNews (independent, $15/100GB)
  • Astraweb (independent, $25/180GB, $50/1TB)
Keep in mind that a good backup service should be from a different provider from your primary service. So if you have a Highwinds reseller, go with a non-Highwinds based company for a backup. Or if you have Astraweb, get a non-Astraweb block... etc.

The prices for 500GB and up for Blocknews is poor since NewsGroupDirect offers its Terabyte Tuesday deal once a month (1000GB for $50US), which works out to $5 cents per GB. But I mean it's not a good deal unless you use it. For light users, Blocknews is pretty good. For heavier users, wait for NGD's monthly Terabyte Tuesday deal.

LightningUsenet is about $5.00/month and you get 500 days of retention. A block account is a good way to be able to download stuff with older retention, if you occasionally have the need (many of the usenet clients have the ability to setup a backup news server if the primary one doesn't have the bins you're looking for).

A good unlimited usenet account is about $10/month, so if you spend less than $5/month extra on a block account, it might be worth it for you. Another benefit of having two providers (an cheap unlimited short retention and a block account) is that if one provider doesn't have what you're looking for, you always have the second one that may have it.

-----------

Who do I choose?
Highwinds is known as a value oriented provider. They're pretty cheap pricing wise. They had some reliability issues (completion rate) a few years ago, but seem to be good as of late. I'm with a Highwinds reseller (News Group Direct) and I'm happy with them. Many people have switched from Astraweb to NGD due to the better pricing and are happy with the service.

Some people want to have the most reliable provider in terms of completion, and the ones with the best reputation are Astraweb and Giganews (Supernews is its cheapest reseller). They haven't really had any major reliability issues, but they cost a little more than Highwinds resellers.

In any case, the major newsgroup providers all peer with each other, so you'll find that even if you have service through <insert provider name here>, you'll still download off the servers of a different provider (I connect to Astraweb servers regularly even though I'm with a Highwinds reseller). I would personally just go with a cheap provider, with a retention length you're looking for.

-----------

A Quick "how-to" for Newsgroups (after signing up with a newsgroup provider)
  1. Get a newsgroup reader (I use SABNZBD+)
  2. Configure the reader with all the connection settings (address, port, SSL, # of connections, username/password)
  3. Get NZBs (kind of like a torrent file?) from a search engine or indexer (I use NZBMatrix, costs $11US for 10 year access)
  4. Load NZB into the reader
A more detailed guide to usenet:
http://www.slyck.com/ng.php

-----------

Diagnosing Speed Issues

In general, a good way to test speed problems that crop up are to try the various means to connect to your newsgroup provider:
  • check your speed on an online speed tester like http://speedtest.net (keep in mind these tools report in bits, and your newsreader is usually in bytes - 8 bits in a byte)
  • try EU and US servers
  • try SSL and non-SSL
  • try different ports if your provider has a selection of them
Most providers I've seen have around 4-6 different combinations of the above to try. I'm tried theCubeNet, ThunderNews (currently with them) and NewsGroupDirect, and I've had temporary short term issues where I had to connect through a different method to max out my speed. They're also all Highwinds resellers.

-----------

For those who have downloads that are missing pieces or if you have a block account or limited data transfer provided by your ISP and want to check if you can successfully download without wasting your credits...

You can use a tool called NZBcc to check your usenet service to confirm if all the pieces are available, or to see what blocks are missing.
http://www.zoon.dk/tag/nzbcc/

If block ## is missing on your primary, you can check your backup service. As long as each piece of the download is available from either of your providers, you are good to go.

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2011 Black Friday / Cyber Monday Deal Thread
usenet-newsgroup-deals-1106245/

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2011 Black Friday / Cyber Monday Deal Thread
usenet-newsgroup-deals-1106245/
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Oct 29, 2006
432 posts
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Ottawa
I always hear about these newsgroup offers and have always been interested in trying them out... I guess the terminology is all new to me since I currently just use torrents. Can anyone provide a link or even better explain the difference and the specifics?

Also what the following are and why they matter:

XX Day Retention
XX Connections
XX Servers (I'm assuming server location affects the speed?)
XX Encryption
XX Completion

Thanks in advance guys!
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Matrx wrote:
Mar 17th, 2011 2:55 pm
Good find - almost on par with thundernews' $5/month Black Friday deal.

I concur.

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