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popbottle wrote:
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Nice cars and a fancy house make you uncomfortable ?
People are always the most comfortable surrounded by their socioeconomic equals or close enough. Most of the time people don't have a choice in the matter though.
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choclover wrote:
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Are you saying that if the tenants are a nuisance, there is a risk that the neighbours will report the situation to the City?
Yes it's possible if they're really annoyed.
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Vancouver real estate prices not the fault of foreign buyers, says new report
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.3108197

Interesting that they keep reiterating that investment of all metro Vancouver properties is about 5%. But what is the percentage for a specific market, like, say, detached homes in the city of Vancouver? Doubt we will ever see those numbers release. It would probably be closer to 40%???
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Jun 11th, 2015 6:32 am
Vancouver real estate prices not the fault of foreign buyers, says new report
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.3108197

Interesting that they keep reiterating that investment of all metro Vancouver properties is about 5%. But what is the percentage for a specific market, like, say, detached homes in the city of Vancouver? Doubt we will ever see those numbers release. It would probably be closer to 40%???
I don't think you understand the word "Foreign." There are those people who have no vested interest in Canada (as well as no residence ambitions) and only buy properties for investing. These people are "foreign" buyers.

The Asians you see buying a house in Vancouver or the Indians you see buying in Coquitlam are actually Canadians or legal residents. They are ... guess what? Canadian!

Get it?
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http://business.financialpost.com/perso ... -vancouver
"The million-dollar average detached house has become synonymous with the real estate market in Canada’s most expensive cities. But despite all the handwringing in the media about the rocketing price of houses, new data show that the seven-figure price tag is hardly the new normal."
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http://business.financialpost.com/perso ... -vancouver
"The million-dollar average detached house has become synonymous with the real estate market in Canada’s most expensive cities. But despite all the handwringing in the media about the rocketing price of houses, new data show that the seven-figure price tag is hardly the new normal."
So, news flash, that house in the middle of nowhere is not going to cost a million dollars any time soon? Shocking revelation there in that article.
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Anikiri wrote:
Jun 11th, 2015 9:56 am
I don't think you understand the word "Foreign." There are those people who have no vested interest in Canada (as well as no residence ambitions) and only buy properties for investing. These people are "foreign" buyers.

The Asians you see buying a house in Vancouver or the Indians you see buying in Coquitlam are actually Canadians or legal residents. They are ... guess what? Canadian!

Get it?
And... that means that 5% of properties in Metro Vancouver are being purchased by foreign investors who don't live here or have legal residence whatsoever. Get it? Let me know if you don't understand.
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adamtheman wrote:
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And... that means that 5% of properties in Metro Vancouver are being purchased by foreign investors who don't live here or have legal residence whatsoever. Get it? Let me know if you don't understand.
Oh no I fully understand that, it's the second part which makes you sound ignorant:
But what is the percentage for a specific market, like, say, detached homes in the city of Vancouver? Doubt we will ever see those numbers release. It would probably be closer to 40%???
Just because they look foreign, doesn't mean they are foreign. Get it?
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Anikiri wrote:
Jun 11th, 2015 1:17 pm
Just because they look foreign, doesn't mean they are foreign. Get it?
But if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quackes like a duck, it must be a...
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Anikiri wrote:
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Oh no I fully understand that, it's the second part which makes you sound ignorant:



Just because they look foreign, doesn't mean they are foreign. Get it?
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adamtheman wrote:
Jun 11th, 2015 12:35 pm
And... that means that 5% of properties in Metro Vancouver are being purchased by foreign investors who don't live here or have legal residence whatsoever. Get it? Let me know if you don't understand.
Not quite. Taking the issue of this not being hard data, and being compiled from a "collection of available data and analyses":
Foreign investment is less than five per cent of the market in Metro Vancouver
The number they are sending out is in the 0%-4.99% region. That is less than 1 in 20 transactions. Such a rate, even if correct (again, there is no hard data) can not drive a market that has pricing that is irrational.

The market is being driven by Canadians taking on huge amounts on debt, not a foreign contingent of investors purchasing in under 5% of sales.
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Jun 11th, 2015 1:45 pm
Not quite. Taking the issue of this not being hard data, and being compiled from a "collection of available data and analyses":



The number they are sending out is in the 0%-4.99% region. That is less than 1 in 20 transactions. Such a rate, even if correct (again, there is no hard data) can not drive a market that has pricing that is irrational.

The market is being driven by Canadians taking on huge amounts on debt, not a foreign contingent of investors purchasing in under 5% of sales.
That 50 million purchase in Pt Grey was by a HK businessman but qualified as local since the family lives here and goes to school here, even though his business is located in HK and the money is made there.
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mattieuk wrote:
Jun 11th, 2015 1:45 pm
The number they are sending out is in the 0%-4.99% region. That is less than 1 in 20 transactions. Such a rate, even if correct (again, there is no hard data) can not drive a market that has pricing that is irrational.

The market is being driven by Canadians taking on huge amounts on debt, not a foreign contingent of investors purchasing in under 5% of sales.
I disagree with you, especially living on the west side of Vancouver. The percentage of Asians here is rising to Richmond levels.

Economics calls it the multiplier effect, where influx of money on the top end allows the original local seller to buy another property elsewhere at a high price, which cascades downwards as everybody down the chain now has more money to spend
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bankonit wrote:
Jun 11th, 2015 2:10 pm
That 50 million purchase in Pt Grey was by a HK businessman but qualified as local since the family lives here and goes to school here, even though his business is located in HK and the money is made there.
Again, I would point out that there is no hard evidence collecting this data - so qualifying someone as "local" is neither here nor here, as the definition isn't being collated in any meaningful manner.
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Jun 11th, 2015 3:36 pm
I disagree with you, especially living on the west side of Vancouver. The percentage of Asians here is rising to Richmond levels.

Economics calls it the multiplier effect, where influx of money on the top end allows the original local seller to buy another property elsewhere at a high price, which cascades downwards as everybody down the chain now has more money to spend
Many people in Vancouver do disagree with me - especially now that the Mayor has started throwing his hat into the ring giving the unproven phenomenon of foreign investors spearheading the rampant real estate market more credit. I just won't be moved from my position until there any evidence released showing this information about the supposed phenomenon. On the other hand we do have ample information about increasing household debt, mortgage levels and borrowing trends which mirror interest rates.
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http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2015/06/vanc ... le-survey/
"While housing and cost of living metrics likely went against Vancouver’s favour, the Monocle ranking gave “intangibles” a greater emphasis including culture, closing time of bars, price of dining out, and proximity to seas, lakes and mountains.

With a greater focus on these metrics, Vancouver, Paris, Lisbon and Geneva have risen in the rankings while Helsinki, Munich and Zurich have taken a fall."

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