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Nov 10th, 2017 11:16 am
Will 1080p content look worse on the X900E than my current native 1080p TV? I know that 1080p looks poor on 4K PC monitors, so before I jump I want to make I won't be blowing 2G's for a downgraded experience.
This TV upscales really well. I swear my OTA TV antenna feed (1080i) looks nearly as good as native 4K content with a clean program on (I've never seen Steve Paikin look so REAL until I got the X900E, hehe).

I'm really happy with getting this over the P series Vizio (plus having to add some crappy tuner box as it has no tuner) due to it's epic processing of lower resolution sources. It also really does OTA justice in other ways, the guide button is 100% functional using OTA and gives me a complete and accurate schedule of all the channels it picked up in the scan, and even tunes into channels that my previous Vizio could not which seems to show that Sony didn't completely cheap out on putting the cheapest tuner they could find into it either.

I can't really say how games translate at lower resolution, the only game I've been playing on it since I got it has been Destiny 2 and I've been playing it at 4K with HDR enabled so everything has been native there. I just wish now that I had ponied up the extra cash for a GTX 1080 Ti over the GTX 1080 now that I've had a taste of true 4K/60hz gaming on the big screen. :(
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Nov 10th, 2017 11:23 am
Depends on the content and these high end set will have powerful CPU to upscale. You can't get stuck in the past, 4K is the future and you will probably buy the next best thing before this set even dies.
That's the thing, my PC definitely won't be able to play games @4K.
kookoo wrote:
Nov 10th, 2017 11:33 am
My Nintendo Switch looks pretty good and it's 1080. Similarly, watching 720p streams aren't too bad.
Did you ever play on a 1080p TV? If so, have you noticed any difference?
vonblock wrote:
Nov 10th, 2017 11:41 am
What is the size of your current TV and what is the size of the TV you want?
Currently own a 55" 1080p. Getting the 65".
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Nov 10th, 2017 1:11 pm
This TV upscales really well. I swear my OTA TV antenna feed (1080i) looks nearly as good as native 4K content with a clean program on (I've never seen Steve Paikin look so REAL until I got the X900E, hehe).

I'm really happy with getting this over the P series Vizio (plus having to add some crappy tuner box as it has no tuner) due to it's epic processing of lower resolution sources. It also really does OTA justice in other ways, the guide button is 100% functional using OTA and gives me a complete and accurate schedule of all the channels it picked up in the scan, and even tunes into channels that my previous Vizio could not which seems to show that Sony didn't completely cheap out on putting the cheapest tuner they could find into it either.

I can't really say how games translate at lower resolution, the only game I've been playing on it since I got it has been Destiny 2 and I've been playing it at 4K with HDR enabled so everything has been native there. I just wish now that I had ponied up the extra cash for a GTX 1080 Ti over the GTX 1080 now that I've had a taste of true 4K/60hz gaming on the big screen. :(
My PC will definitely not be able to maintain 60 FPS above 1080p; will all 1080p content be upscaled to 4K? With a newer CPU I could probably pull off 1440p60, but I don't plan on upgrading the CPU until Coffee Lakes are widely available.
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Just got back from BB, wanted to see both the 850e and 900e together. I know the specs on the 900e are better than the 850e, but I couldn't see a difference.
They both have a fantastic picture, and I'm starting to lean towards the 850e to save a bit of cash.
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zabuza wrote:
Nov 10th, 2017 11:16 am
Will 1080p content look worse on the X900E than my current native 1080p TV? I know that 1080p looks poor on 4K PC monitors, so before I jump I want to make I won't be blowing 2G's for a downgraded experience.
I find that my cable TV looks a bit fuzzy compared to my 50" Plasma. That may just be a size thing.

But 900p Mario Odyssey looks great. There are jaggies (to be expected, I don't think Nintendo uses anti-aliasing in this game) but it is not fuzzy like the cable signal.
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My PC will definitely not be able to maintain 60 FPS above 1080p; will all 1080p content be upscaled to 4K? With a newer CPU I could probably pull off 1440p60, but I don't plan on upgrading the CPU until Coffee Lakes are widely available.
The TV has to upscale everything to 4K. It probably has a better scaler than your GPU so make sure the option to have the GPU scale is off. You probably need a better GPU than CPU when it comes to game resolution though.
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zabuza wrote:
Nov 10th, 2017 2:58 pm
That's the thing, my PC definitely won't be able to play games @4K.


Did you ever play on a 1080p TV? If so, have you noticed any difference?


Currently own a 55" 1080p. Getting the 65".


My PC will definitely not be able to maintain 60 FPS above 1080p; will all 1080p content be upscaled to 4K? With a newer CPU I could probably pull off 1440p60, but I don't plan on upgrading the CPU until Coffee Lakes are widely available.
If you need a CPU upgrade to obtain 60hz in game, you're doing something wrong or your current CPU is a Pentium 4.

But yes, your TV will upscale everything in 4k. Sony is usually pretty good in upscaling.
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Nov 10th, 2017 3:03 pm
Just got back from BB, wanted to see both the 850e and 900e together. I know the specs on the 900e are better than the 850e, but I couldn't see a difference.
They both have a fantastic picture, and I'm starting to lean towards the 850e to save a bit of cash.
You won't see it in a brightly lit room, but once the lights are out the difference will be apparent.
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Ziggy007 wrote:
Nov 10th, 2017 10:28 am
I know the MU8000 has decent reviews (the Sony still trumps it according to rtings) but would you actually want an edge lit 75"?

I would assume that must be a disaster when it comes to blooming, light leakage in the corners and all that?
Good point. I went with 75 inch Sony X900e, got it from teletime for $3150
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superlink wrote:
Nov 10th, 2017 3:03 pm
Just got back from BB, wanted to see both the 850e and 900e together. I know the specs on the 900e are better than the 850e, but I couldn't see a difference.
They both have a fantastic picture, and I'm starting to lean towards the 850e to save a bit of cash.
Any TV will look good in a best buy.

The problem is with the light off or dark room.

If you're not watching TV in a Batcave, you could probably save some money going 850e.
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Nov 10th, 2017 3:19 pm
The TV has to upscale everything to 4K. It probably has a better scaler than your GPU so make sure the option to have the GPU scale is off. You probably need a better GPU than CPU when it comes to game resolution though.
This is good to know, thanks.
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Nov 10th, 2017 3:40 pm
If you need a CPU upgrade to obtain 60hz in game, you're doing something wrong or your current CPU is a Pentium 4.

But yes, your TV will upscale everything in 4k. Sony is usually pretty good in upscaling.
I'm on an i5 2500K paired with a 1070. From what I've read, that CPU is a bottleneck for more demanding games (open-world, mostly). It's not pulling off 60FPS in Assassin's Creed: Origins, for example, not even at 1080p, and I've got the CPU OC'd to 4.5GHz. I watched some benchmarks vids on YouTube and saw better performance in city areas on a 1060, so I think the CPU is what's holding me back (I realize the 1070 isn't going to be terrific at > 1080p without compromises).

My main objective is to keep performance & IQ consistent with my current setup. From the feedback here, it seems I'll be okay!
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Hows the SJ8000 compared to this? It's $1300 off right now for the 65" on Costco.ca
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zabuza wrote:
Nov 10th, 2017 4:07 pm
This is good to know, thanks.


I'm on an i5 2500K paired with a 1070. From what I've read, that CPU is a bottleneck for more demanding games (open-world, mostly). It's not pulling off 60FPS in Assassin's Creed: Origins, for example, not even at 1080p, and I've got the CPU OC'd to 4.5GHz. I watched some benchmarks vids on YouTube and saw better performance in city areas on a 1060, so I think the CPU is what's holding me back (I realize the 1070 isn't going to be terrific at > 1080p without compromises).

My main objective is to keep performance & IQ consistent with my current setup. From the feedback here, it seems I'll be okay!
Yeah, some game might start to get difficulties with your CPU, but it's still good if you want to play in 4k. Increasing the resolution won't use more CPU power, at least nothing more than 5%.

Anyway, I play every single game in 4k with the same GPU you have. Believe me, it will look much better to play a game at 4k with graphic at high and shadow medium than 1080p at ultra. Don't forget that anti aliasing is usually not necessary in 4k, so you'll gain some extra performance there.

Some game engine will look great at 1440P with massive dose of AA. Some won't and will look better in genuine 4k (I'm looking at you Witcher 3)
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zabuza wrote:
Nov 10th, 2017 11:16 am
Will 1080p content look worse on the X900E than my current native 1080p TV? I know that 1080p looks poor on 4K PC monitors, so before I jump I want to make I won't be blowing 2G's for a downgraded experience.
I went from a 55” LG 3D TV to the 65” Sony X900E. 1080p/720p content does not look worse. Pretty impressive actually.
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I was asking a contact of mine to get pricing on a 55inch x900e and apparently Sony is like Apple with fixed pricing that's why all these big box stores are selling at the same price. Not sure how the smaller stores can sell cheaper I guess being a smaller outlet they have more control over their own pricing based on what their supplier gave it to them for

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