Wal-Mart Canada to spend over $750 million this year on new, remodelled stores

[Hitman21]

But if the Toronto Star said it, then it must be true, especially if it paints Harper in a negative light...

Too many people blindly follow the Toronto Star along with the rest of the consensus media. Its a good thing the Globe and Mail along with the National Post brought out the truth

[aliikram]

Too many people blindly follow the Toronto Star along with the rest of the consensus media. Its a good thing the Globe and Mail along with the National Post brought out the truth

You should not blindly follow any media, whether it is The Star, G&M or the National Post. Made me laugh when you said the latter two brought out "the truth".

[Hitman21]

You should not blindly follow any media, whether it is The Star, G&M or the National Post. Made me laugh when you said the latter two brought out "the truth".

I dont blindly follow any media. Some of the stuff they say is true, but many times I question what I hear from them.

[NG]

Too many people blindly follow the Toronto Star along with the rest of the consensus media. Its a good thing the Globe and Mail along with the National Post brought out the truth

1) That article makes no mention that the millions Harper gave to the plant didn't happen. Do you have a source for that?

2) The article does state that most of the patents were from Americans. According to the excerpt from The Star they quote The Star never said otherwise. It did say that Cat "walking away with the company’s patents and technology" - which is true.

The plant was located in Canada which, again, is true. The plant is now closed and Cat owns all the patents from the company (regardless of where they came from).

The article from the G&M link above appears to be doing nothing more than twisting the facts to mount an attack on the Toronto Star.

If all papers do this (basically adopting the Sun News model of attacking the competition) then soon all the papers will be filled with "Na Ha!" articles attacking the competition instead of reporting their own stories they've uncovered.

I'm sure The Star could have a daily page devoted to twisting the facts to attack all of the establishment right wing media - perhaps they should if the G&M and Sun News are attacking them.

[WildWolf]

I read the Star and the National Post at times, I personally dispise Christie Blancford, I don't read her article, besides she looks like a witch. The Toronto Sun is the worst paper, a right wing rag paper.

[Hitman21]

I read the Star and the National Post at times, I personally dispise Christie Blancford, I don't read her article, besides she looks like a witch. The Toronto Sun is the worst paper, a right wing rag paper.

The readers of the Toronto Sun would disagree with you

[NG]

The readers of the Toronto Sun would disagree with you

1) Of course they will. That's like saying Candiens fans would disagree when someone says the Leafs are the best team. It's stating the obvious.

2) No links that proves proof (and not an op-ed piece like that G&M article) that Harper didn't give millions to that Cat plant only to have it close?

3) No reply about how that G&M article was basically building a straw man article to twist the facts of what The Star said and then attack them on what the G&M said they said?

[NG]

I dont blindly follow any media. Some of the stuff they say is true, but many times I question what I hear from them.

But you still defend and promote the right wing establishment media like the G&M, PostMedia and The Sun right?

While criticizing the progressive Toronto Star right?

[DRC]

Death blow to yet more Canadian small retailers.

In my grandparent's time the small retailers, yeah those guys with the general stores, were the richest people in small towns in rural Ontario. They charged their neighbours exorbitant prices for basic staples and lived well. Somebody smarter came along and ate their lunch. It happens.

[Hitman21]

But you still defend and promote the right wing establishment media like the G&M, PostMedia and The Sun right?

While criticizing the progressive Toronto Star right?

The globe and mail isnt really right wing. I dont defend them all I did was post an article from them. When people make baseless claims against the Sun because they hate conservatives I will defend them.

You pretend to care about people, saying they should get living wages yet you oppose the oilsands which would have created many jobs.

[NG]

The globe and mail isnt really right wing. I dont defend them all I did was post an article from them. When people make baseless claims against the Sun because they hate conservatives I will defend them.

You pretend to care about people, saying they should get living wages yet you oppose the oilsands which would have created many jobs.

1) The oil sands (along with the rest of the oil industry) in Alberta has caused our dollar to rise above parity which is one of the reasons mfg jobs in the east are being decimated. If we had a new National Energy Program type thing where Alberta paid back to the Ontario for how they're destroying their jobs that's one thing but they're not.

2) Your argument is the typical Sun News model (and now, apparently, the G&M) - you don't like their position so you find a way to attack them instead of defending your own position

3) No response for proof from independent sources that prove that Harper didn't give millions to Cat only to have them close the plant.

4) No response that the G&M article mangled what The Star was saying to misrepresent what they were saying simply to be able to attack them. Typical right wing Sun News tactics.

Since the right wing apparently isn't going to stop this sleazy way of mounting a debate hopefully The Star will devote pages in their paper to attacking the G&M and Sun News. That should even it out.

[Cheap Cat]

Well have to agree on Costco and disagree on Wal-Mart (I tend to all corps as evil with WM just being one of them) but should I place no priority on shopping at Loblaws stores because they're the only unionized retailer in Canada?

Honestly that's one of the few reasons I shop there to begin with.

Loblaws is not the only unionized retail store. There are many other unionized retailer locations in Canada. In fact, unionization used to be standard in the food retailer sector. In addition to the Loblaw Co. stores, Metro stores and Food Basics are unionized. Some Sobeys, Price Choppers, IGA are unionized. Grand & Toy stores are unionized. There are a variety of other unionized retail locations.

[sandikosh]

I thought Target bought all the Zellers stores though. Interesting to see which Zellers got bought up by WM.

The Zellers at Jane & Wilson will be a Wal Mart store by late summer.

[sandikosh]

Wal-Mart is making a strategic move to help position themselves to defend against Target. For over a decade now, Wal-Mart has dominated the Canadian landscape with little competition in their way. Target's arrivial to Canada represents the first true threat to Wal-Mart.

Target is no threat to Wal Mart. Both retailers cater to people with different incomes. Just look at the locations where Target is setting up stores. They are not in just any location. The Bay and Sears will be a casualty of Target.