In-wall/ceiling speakers

[dandiggler]

Im gonna get in my unfinished house to run speakers and wire in the family room, kitchen, dining and master bedroom.

Im been looking around and these speakers are kinda expensive.

Any ideas of where to get good quality and low prices and any brand names to look out for.

ive been allowed access to my house by the builder on the weekends so if anyone has any other ideas of upgrades i can do myself please pass them on.

Thanks

[The_Professor]

Paradigm (Canadian speaker manufacturer) makes a good selection of in wall speakers. Some are quite expensive while others are a little more affordable. As in most cases, you get what you pay for. If you're not an audiophile I'd likely not go with the Paradigms as there are certainly cheaper brands on the market.

[BuildingHomes]

Audio is subjective so what may sound good to you may sound like crap to another person.

But it is typically accepted that the more you spend, the better the speaker.

If you are looking at doing inwall/ceiling speakers, I always recommend placing speaker brackets. This way you can measure out where the speakers will be and the drywallers will cut around the bracket. Then when it comes time to mount the speaker, you just trim the drywall, connect the speaker and place it.

And note that you need to be aware of where you run speaker wire. There are some things that you should not do, one being NEVER use the same holes as the electrical wire. And use inwall speaker wire and not the see-through stuff.

If you need assistance (and speakers), please feel free to contact me. This is part of what I do.

[Jay1234]

Paradigm (Canadian speaker manufacturer) makes a good selection of in wall speakers. Some are quite expensive while others are a little more affordable. As in most cases, you get what you pay for. If you're not an audiophile I'd likely not go with the Paradigms as there are certainly cheaper brands on the market.

I personally prefer B&W over Paradigm. Love the B&W with Kevlar cones.

[Pete_Coach]

Here are speakers at a reasonable price http://www.htd.com/in-wall-ceiling-speakers

If you are making a purpose built area and want the home theatre set up to be incorporated in the walls and ceilings then it is one thing but, if you want sound in various rooms etc don't do as my friend who wired many speakers throughout the house but they were single speakers and he had poor stereo sound. There speakers that you can reproduce stereo from one speaker. He had to replace the single speakers and run more wires afterwards.run extra wires and

[PCDawg]

I personally prefer B&W over Paradigm. Love the B&W with Kevlar cones.

But they are pricey. The OP is looking for decent priced speakers.

There's tons of speakers out there that are very decent and made in Canada. Energy and mirage have some low to high end which are very affordable and sounds amazing.

Its best to not have an in-wall speaker set-up as if you do play to sell the house, not everyone would like a few placement holes in the walls as they could not be home theatre enthusiasts.

With just wall mounted brackets, holes can be easily patched and painted over.

[Jay1234]

Here are speakers at a reasonable price http://www.htd.com/in-wall-ceiling-speakers

If you are making a purpose built area and want the home theatre set up to be incorporated in the walls and ceilings then it is one thing but, if you want sound in various rooms etc don't do as my friend who wired many speakers throughout the house but they were single speakers and he had poor stereo sound. There speakers that you can reproduce stereo from one speaker. He had to replace the single speakers and run more wires afterwards.run extra wires and

Yes there are single point stereo speakers, good speaker companies make these.

I always believe that you should buy speakers from a "speaker company". This means that a company that specializes in speakers an not a bunch of stuff.

Goes with the old saying "jack of all trades, master of none".

Jay

[BuildingHomes]

I always believe that you should buy speakers from a "speaker company". This means that a company that specializes in speakers an not a bunch of stuff.

This sounds like the Jay that matches up with this picture
http://www.phand.ca/index.php?image=8


The single point speakers are called Dual Voice Coil. They are a single 'woofer' with a pair of tweeters in the middle that are usually facing away from each other at a slight angle.

I've installed a number of different speakers from different companies, mostly the higher end Russound and RBH speakers, but I have also just recently installed a number of Stealth Acoustics speakers. Amazing sound from an invisible speaker. www.stealthacoustics.com

[Pete_Coach]

Yes there are single point stereo speakers, good speaker companies make these.

I always believe that you should buy speakers from a "speaker company". This means that a company that specializes in speakers an not a bunch of stuff.

Goes with the old saying "jack of all trades, master of none".

Jay

I agree. I do believe that HTD manufactures the equipment, at least the website says they do. My real point was that single point stereo was generally the most effective option unless it is a purpose built room.

[sharppencil]

Any reviews on Speakercraft speakers?

[Jay1234]

This sounds like the Jay that matches up with this picture
http://www.phand.ca/index.php?image=8

Yep you guessed it!

[grant]

The single point speakers are called Dual Voice Coil. They are a single 'woofer' with a pair of tweeters in the middle that are usually facing away from each other at a slight angle.

???

Dual Voice Coil (DVC) is a wiring pattern for a single driver. Its purpose is to offer more flexible powering, particularly for high output amplifiers. http://www.crutchfield.com/ISEO-rgbt...fers_dual.html

I believe you're thinking of composite speakers, which have multiple drivers and usually a passive crossover mounted in a single frame
http://www.electronics-manufacturers...nd_subwoofers/

[BuildingHomes]

Dual Voice Coil (DVC) is a wiring pattern for a single driver. Its purpose is to offer more flexible powering, particularly for high output amplifiers. http://www.crutchfield.com/ISEO-rgbt...fers_dual.html

I believe you're thinking of composite speakers, which have multiple drivers and usually a passive crossover mounted in a single frame
http://www.electronics-manufacturers...nd_subwoofers/

Then maybe I have described it incorrectly.

The way I read it on RBH, Russound and Destination Audio is they state Dual Voice Coil for all of their single point, stereo speakers.

If you have a better way for me to describe it, I'm open to it.


http://www.destinationaudio.com/html/ac642.htm
http://www.rbhsound.com/a815d.shtml
http://www.russound.com/spa6s.htm

[The_Professor]

I believe you're thinking of composite speakers, which have multiple drivers and usually a passive crossover mounted in a single frame
http://www.electronics-manufacturers...nd_subwoofers/

I thought they were called coaxial speakers?

[loudsubz]

Most inwalls or inceilings are just used for background music where quality and tonality arnt a big issue. I havn't heard a set of decent priced in wall or in ceiling speakers that sound really good...enough for me to give up a nice bookshelf or floor standing cousin.

For a decent price speaker I like the AudioTrak professional line.
http://www.audiotrak.com/pdfs/STS-BS...l-Speakers.pdf

They also have a Platinum line but I can't really tell the difference for background listening.

Call me old fashioned but it would take some persuading for me to go full inwall over floorstanding or bookshelf for a nice 2ch audio setup. But for a HT application or regular background music inwalls are pretty nice and you dont have to have big bulky speakers in the way.

TruAudio also makes a nice speaker, they are newer but have a nice product lineup.

We also deal with this stuff all the time.