It sounds good to me. As long you keep your fat & calorie consumption under control. You want to burn more calories than you intake and if you reduce the sugar intake will help as well.Originally Posted by Fightguard
This is fine as well. Since your objective is to loose weight then the low weight and high reps is fine since I consider this a toning type of weight training.Originally Posted by Fightguard
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Oct 22nd, 2004 04:04 PM #1
Weight Loss and Muscle Mass
Here's my progress so far that I posted in another thread,
Thus far I'm losing around 3 lbs. a week...first off, is this a good rate of loss, given my starting weight??
Originally Posted by Fightguard
Now,what I'm a bit concerned with with is how much of what I'm losing is fat, and how much is muscle....the fact that my belly hasn't really changed by the looks of it has got me thinking about this. My primary goal is losing weight and muscle development is secondary but I'd like to get some comments on how well I'm doing balancing out the two...
I workout 5 days a week, but it really breaks down as a 3-day cycle - exercise two days straight (first thing in the morning) then rest on the third day. Workouts range from 45 to 75 mins., depending on my routine. The shortest sessions are 30 min. cardio plus 15 min. doing a couple of dumbell exercises. The longest sessions are 40 min. cardio plus 35 min. dumbells.
I've got a bench a do all the dumbell excercises described here,
http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com...exercises.html
however, I'm only working with light weights, 10 lbs. only...I do 20-25 reps per set, and 6 sets per exercise. I know my weights are light but my muscles do get fatigued and I do feel the "burn" during each set so I know I'm working hard.Last edited by Fightguard; Oct 22nd, 2004 at 04:24 PM.
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Oct 22nd, 2004 06:39 PM #3Deal Addict




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How many calories do you average per day?
You have to get bigger dumbbells try finding weights that will allow you to get so tired you cant do another lift after about 3 sets of 8 reps
Cut your protein shakes down to 1 max a day, its useless calories if your really not pushing yourself to build muscle
The Last place you put fat on (usually the tits on a guy) is the first place it comes off and the first place it comes on (stomach for guys) is the last place it will come off so keep at it.
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Oct 22nd, 2004 07:22 PM #4Thanks...so if I'm toning, as opposed to building my musclues, am I effectively maintaining my current muscle mass and not losing any of it through the rest of my workouts and diet??
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Oct 22nd, 2004 07:33 PM #5I'm eating healthy and eating less food than before...but I actually haven't been counting my calorie intake...
Originally Posted by sumfunny
I do plan to get heavier weights...I just thought I'd wait untill I'm down to around 200 lbs. before I move on to bigger dumbells...I thought it was a good plan since I think I'm already getting a pretty good workout with the 10 lbs + high reps...So you think I should start with heavier weights now?
Finally, my proties shakes are 1 a day for the most part...I only take the extra 0.5/1 serving if I feel I didn't/wasn't getting enough with the rest of my diet (ie. don't have time to eat dinner/meal). It's 20 grams each serving...Last edited by Fightguard; Oct 22nd, 2004 at 07:36 PM.
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Oct 22nd, 2004 08:35 PM #6
Here's an example of my SMALL meals, spaced 2-3 hours apart throughout the day:
Breakfast 1) very small serving of oatmeal and an apple
Breakfast 2) 2 egg whites sandwiched in a single slice of wheat bread
Lunch 1) piece of pita bread, tuna, salad
Lunch 2) snack of yogurt and nuts, piece of fruit or carrot sticks
Dinner 1) small strip of chicken breast and vegetables, rice
Dinner 2) same as 1, but no rice
*If I have a seventh meal, it's a snack type.
*Dinner 2 becomes a snack type if I ate a bit more during Dinner 1.Last edited by Fightguard; Oct 22nd, 2004 at 08:58 PM.
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if you can spare the time about 10 min 3 times a day, I'm sure you spend more on RFD go to
fitday.com and just track for maybe a week or so
you probably want some where around 2200- 2500 calories / day
as for the toning etc regarding the high reps to much and all your really doing is exhausting your arms and could possibly be starting to burn muscle through that. Just a thought though
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Oct 22nd, 2004 09:15 PM #8this is the type of answer I'm looking for...thanks.
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I'll look into fitday.com as well. Thanks again._______________
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Oct 22nd, 2004 10:28 PM #9A good fitness community to visit is Finertia. I have a fitness journal there as well. I find it's great for getting advice as that is the focus of the whole community. A lot of people are based in the GTA. It's a good environment since everybody there is fitness conscious, so it really gets you motivated...well, atleast for me it does...haha
Originally Posted by Fightguard
As well, someone mentioned Fitday which is pretty good, especially since it's FREE. I'm using it right now to monitor my caloric intake.
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Oct 25th, 2004 01:40 PM #10It's hard to say whether you are actually maintaining unless you frequently have body composition tests done (in a phase where you are losing fat). Here's the logic: while your weight program will not cause you to lose muscle mass, the fact that you are decreasing your mass (mostly fat) will. Don't forget that your body now lugs around ~20 fewer pounds at ALL TIMES. Consider this a continuous weight exercise throughout the day - a movement such as crouching down has 20 lbs less resistance than before. Same effect goes for all stabilizing muscles in your back, abs, etc.
Originally Posted by Fightguard
I've gone through a mass decrease of about 22% and have experienced this myself, so maintaining that mass will require a bit more work (heavier weights) as you progress.
Best of luck to you!
edit: most of my losses were over a 2-3 year period ending about a year ago - very gradual but i'm still working at it.
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Oct 25th, 2004 09:29 PM #11
It's nice to see another person learning the importance of staying fit. Last August I weighed in at around 225 pounds, but since then I've reached 190. I'm about 5'9". As you can see I still have around 20 pounds of fat to go
However, I've taken something of a different route from yourself. I started with weight training and moved on to cardio.... believe it or not I owe it all to DDR to get me started
I'm telling you this, because your missing something very important by just lifting 10 pound weights. They may tone a bit but you will not gain muscle. Even if it seems that gaining muscle now is counter-intuitive it actually is not. You see every pound of muscle increases the calories you burn daily by 25-50 calories. That may not seem like much, but 10 pounds of muscle = 250-500 calories more a DAY. You might want to try the heavier 20 or 25 pound weights.
The added muscle mass does have other advantages. I know it seems shallow, but when I look at my arms I'm filled with a little pride that it was my determintation and strength that got me whats there.
Right now I'm trying high intensity cardio, sprinting, during short bursts. From what I've read recently it's effects are better than long sessions, and it does little to affect muscle mass that long cardio sessions do.
Just curious though, what made you decide to start losing weight? Mine was well... I'll leave it at that._______________
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Oct 25th, 2004 10:20 PM #12
Thanks for all the feedback...
I'm definitely looking into heavier weights immediately...after woking out this weekend, suddenly 25 reps/6 sets just isn't tiring me anymore. Definitely a psychological aspect comming into play here
Ren, the decision simply came down to the fact that I need to live...
I have a ridiculously high blood pressure and diabeties is prevalent in my father's side of the family, with my father being the most severe case among them...simple decision that I finally realised that I need to take my health seriously.Last edited by Fightguard; Oct 25th, 2004 at 10:58 PM.
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you gotta eat 6 times a day bro. Make sure to train your metabolism to work faster. Don't use a scale. It will just mess with your head. If you have a tape measure then use it and make sure to measure each mucle or your belly.
I was size 36" a month ago and now i'm down to 33" waistline. The routine I did was the one BFL recommended but I switched to a different routine after 2 weeks (i think). If you want to lose fat then do cardio. Try to eat healthy and clean. How long are you planning to do a cutting cycle?
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Nov 2nd, 2004 11:34 PM #14I do eat 6 times a day...I made reference to this earlier, see my original post and a few posts above for an example of my diet.
Originally Posted by daimien
Cardio? I do 30-40 minutes a day, 5 days a week...did you read my posts at all??
I'm not familiar with the term "cutting cycle"...can you explain please?
thanks.
BTW, just to update on my weight training situation...I bought a havier set of adjustable dumbells last week, so I'm now working with 20-25 lbs. in some exercises (eg. bicep curls) and 15 lbs. with others (eg. tricep kickbacks).Last edited by Fightguard; Nov 2nd, 2004 at 11:44 PM.
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lol sorry bro, I'm too tired to go over all the posts but yes, now that you mentioned it. I seen your post
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