What is acceptable?

[_dangtx_]

common sense should say assure that mother if its over a certain value. most of what i ship,lik 99% have at least insurance. expedited has 100$ base insurance ,whether u want or not :p they wil ltake tehre time,but they usually refund you your cash. i sent a package to russia,of course the ystole it over tehre lol.tracking says 'item arived in destination country' c.p. fussed a bit but when you stand your ground they wil lgive i nas its your right t oclaim the insurance over what they have covered.now,its been liek 2 months since i opened the inquiry, and teh ysay it can take up to 3(the 3 months wait are tehre to ensure the uber slow snail mail in toehr countried gets the item to its destination).
now,i dont think itll take that long here in canada..maybe a coupel of weeks, a month?
dan

[Composter]

I wasn't aware that this thread was made but its my time to share my side of the story. I initially made a thread selling an x1950pro 512mb card.

Link to thread: http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...d.php?t=397200

My last edit made for this thread was February 3rd. I'd like to clear up first of all that at no time did I ever state "Overnight ship". At one point I advertised "FREE SHIPPING" to speed up my sale and under this condition enviro61 purchased the card from me. In regards to my PM regarding Xpresspost to enviro61 I usually try to send via Xpresspost depending on the box size but I had already taken a $120-140 loss on this card which was BNIB and I couldn't see myself scrambling more money to send for the luxury of the buyer at my expense. I have sent packages Regular Parcel on numerous occasions to as far as BC and they have only taken roughly 4-5 days so upon hearing that the package had not arrived from enviro61 I contacted Canada post. I was told that unless tracking was included at an additional cost then unfortunately they will be unable to determine the exact reason as to why a specific parcel has been delayed or has never been received. I am 100% sure as well that the correct address information was written on the package.

Until receiving my most recent PM from enviro61 I had planned to attempt at resolving this issue through Canada post since I had assumed it was their error. Then I receive his PM saying:




My response was:



Upon purchasing the postage it was never underlined to me that tracking was included on regular parcel at no extra charge if it is, and I threw out the receipt. Even when I called Canada Post head office they told me the same so I'm somewhat confused.

Now as much as I'd like to defend my reputation without pointing accusations how do I know that enviro61 doesn't have the package in his possession as we speak? He has 19 posts and 0 heatware. Now I usually don't like to base a traders credibility solely on posting and heat but I'm not on the wrong here and I have a much larger reputation at stake.

By sending this $240+ Video Card in the mail without ANY kind of paper trial for your own protection is just ridiculous. You may have well just wrapped it up and put it on a Park bench with his name on it and hoped he came along and got it!

regardless of the original deal, the method of shipment is solely up to YOU and you are at a loss for not looking after your own best interest.

Did you in fact ship the package?
Did the buyer receive the package?
Are you being scammed?
is the buyer being scammed?

all these questions could have been avoided for ONE DOLLAR!

[_dangtx_]

question is, who do we trust? newbie or cheapie?

[_dangtx_]

wait,i got an idea. cheapie,go to the post office and get a letter from the manager,also if u paid with a cc or bank c u have some proof that u mailed something.

[enviro61]

My feedback ratings:

http://feedback.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI...me=STRK:ME:UFS

http://www.playerauctions.com/feedba..._id=1019707754


And alot of other positive transactions not accounted for and 2 pos on rfd to date.

I guarantee you if a mod can verify your edits that it can be confirmed you had overnight shipping in there before the final edit.

The point is you claim to have thrown out the receipt??? Why, why would you do this? They even tell you that there is a tracking number on the receipt when they give it to you. Any experienced seller provides a tracking number to the buyer as a courtesy which is common practice.

[freeloader1969]

NEVER throw out a shipping receipt until you've comfirmed with the receiver that the parcel is physically in their possession!

Everyone now receives a tracking number from Canada Post for any parcel!

[vinciman1215]

Christ sake Pcpro, just give this poor man his money back in full, or at LEAST get him some kind of guarantee that his **** is coming...

Put yourself in his shoes for a moment, he blindly sent you a EMT in good heart, trusting you based on the warm-hearted RFD community. If someone trusted you, and the community you represented, wouldn't you want to make sure that this new fellow had a pleasurable experience trading, instead of taking such cruel, cruel advantage??

Dude, I'm not saying that your a fraud atm (although it is in fact starting to look like one), but just remember that if your cheating this poor man, your cheating the RFD community as a whole.

...and trust me buddy, you don't want to do that.

[ca1n]

what is so funny is his reputation is at risk?LOL
11 heatware is not something of value.
the buyer has more online action than you x4
Guess you are the noob pcpro so buck up the cash.

I when pcpro wanted my 8800gtx his biggest concern what that he would get the card "express post" shipped the very next day. So you do know what its like to have needs as a buyer. I did not even offer express post but was throwing it in. YOu offer overnight and retract which leaves you 0 credibilty.
You will get a negative from the buy and I am going to give him the link to my page where you screwed me over to post on his heatware eval. So its your rep that is now tarnished.

[masterc]

Like the others have said, for the extra couple of bucks you could have avoided all this PCPro. As the seller, its not worth the hassle and risk not to ship with some type of tracking.

As far as Enviro's cred, I just completed a deal with him last week and he was a good trader as far as my dealings with him are concerned.

[Noob1ee]

LMAO, obviously this guy is mentally challanged for sending such an expensive package and throwing out the receipt without getting tracking #.

If that's not it, then he's a troll.

[pcpro]

Okay I'd first like to clarify that when I threw out the receipt I didn't physically walk up to the garbage and say oh this is useless to me now. I have tons of receipts lying around and upon clearing up old stuff I hadn't been contacted by enviro61 after so long and was under the assumption that he received the package. Honest mistake. I have dealt with various people in the past who upon receiving items have not bothered to confirm it with me or trade heat or whatever. Sometimes it just slips peoples minds which is what I had assumed. Now I can admit that the tracking issue was my screwup but never at any time was I briefed about it by the post office. So what am I supposed to do? Refund his money in full when he could have the card with him right now? I sincerely am at a loss and its possible that he is as well but I can't exactly be expected to put myself deeper in the whole by losing the card and the money.

Secondly, Ca1n because your irritated about our past transaction doesn't validate posting irrelevant information in this thread. I mean did you notice how you posted about how I backed out on the card and blah blah and no one responded to your post? It was like 2 months ago for one and Secondly you sold it the same day. If your going to post at least make it relevant to solving this issue with enviro61 and myself because that is THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD rather than letting the world know about your hard feelings for me because I could care less. The purpose of this thread is to try and solve this issue not read about some bitter nonsense.

Thirdly, contact mods or whoever is necessary because again at no time did I ever offer OVERNIGHT shipping. FREE SHIPPING does not constitute overnight shipping. Enviro61 either misread my thread or is confusing it with someone else because that is the first thing I'd like to clear up.

[ca1n]

pcpro you are useless.
You should give him his money back because you are the idiot who has no way to prove you even shipped it. But you will not because the simple fact is you have no cash. And at least when I trade I can cover my item's shipped.

And about my thread where you say no one has replied?Are you that much of a noob that you have no idea to see when a thread is locked? I asked the admin to lock the thread so I would not have to deal with you anymore. So that is why no one has responded idiot.

Like I said you are a joke. Sure he might have the video card but seeing as how you have no way to prove you shipped it becuase of a mistake made by you and only you! So I hope you get banned if you do not pay for this mistake.

Waste of skin.
I think no one will ever want to deal with you for the simple reason is that you do not back the items you sell.
You are a bad trader.

[pcpro]

pcpro you are useless.
You should give him his money back because you are the idiot who has no way to prove you even shipped it. But you will not because the simple fact is you have no cash. And at least when I trade I can cover my item's shipped.

And about my thread where you say no one has replied?Are you that much of a noob that you have no idea to see when a thread is locked? I asked the admin to lock the thread so I would not have to deal with you anymore. So that is why no one has responded idiot.

Like I said you are a joke. Sure he might have the video card but seeing as how you have no way to prove you shipped it becuase of a mistake made by you and only you! So I hope you get banned if you do not pay for this mistake.

Waste of skin.
I think no one will ever want to deal with you for the simple reason is that you do not back the items you sell.
You are a bad trader.

You are by far the most unintelligent trader on this board not to mention that you maintain the literacy of an A+ grade three student. Congrats! Re-read my post then read the nonsense you just posted and get back to me.

-Thanks.

[NuSpeed]

ok, ca1n... Name calling wont exactly help enviro61 or pcpro solve the situation. This thread was made to aid advice to both users, and flag a heads up to all users. Argueing wont solve it. Lets try and Help enviro61 and Pcpro get this sorted out, thats what the thread is for. Lets keep this thread clean.

[ca1n]

Heatware
Username 211k1dd
Location Vancouver, British Columbia
Total Evals 130
Positive Evals 129
Neutral Evals 1
Negative Evals 0
Last Eval Date 2-13-2007

I admit I do not write or spell like a university graduate! At least I am not a liar and a cheat. You have proven to be both all by yourself.
This is not about how one's spells its about being a bad trader so please stay on topic.
You want to compare dick sizes or account balances?Oh yea you can afford 8$ for express post shipping for me or the buyer in this thread.
I am done with this thread and I am just living proof that you are as of a waste of time 2 weeks ago as you are now.
DO NOT DEAL WITH HIM EVEN THOUGH HE HAS 11 Heatware.