Thread: What can someone do with a VIN number?
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Sep 12th, 2009 07:25 PM
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What can someone do with a VIN number?
I got an email from someone about my car I'm selling and they asked me for the VIN number. They didn't explain but what they wanted it for, my first assumption was to get a Carproof report. But I paused because I find it odd someone would want that information without even viewing the car first.
Is there some something a would-be identity thief or the like could do with a VIN number or is this a perfectly innocent request?
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Sep 12th, 2009 07:37 PM
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They could use it to fabricate a fake VIN plate or an ownership/registration document, but this is pretty far-fetched. The likely situation is that they have an unlimited Carfax membership and want to check the car out before they make a trip.
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Sep 13th, 2009 10:32 AM
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Yup, i've been looking for a used car & have unlim carfax, first question I ask is for the VIN#, saves the buyer a long trip if there's unlisted problems in ad.
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Sep 15th, 2009 11:29 PM
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I too have just recently been asked to supply them my VIN on my car thats for sale. He hasn't seen the car in person yet. I assume it is for a carfax search and whatnot. Which is good b/c im hoping it is a legitimate buyer finally. (alot of scammers out there! wow).
A friend mentioned that I shouldn't give out my VIN because of "re-VIN-ed" scams...But I don't see how this can affect me as a seller. I know my car is clean and genuine.
I could easily slap a for sale sign on my window and anyone can walk by and write down the VIN... No big deal right? It's not like it contains personal information.
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Sep 15th, 2009 11:37 PM
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If by "what can they do with it" you mean what malfeasance they can engage in or what harm they can do to you from having your VIN number? Pretty much? Nothing.
Your VIN numer is publicly displayed on your car, just like your license plate. ANYONE can see that information just by walking by your car. Yet, how many things have people "done something" with this information so far? They can't do anything more with it than anyone else could and trust me there are far more criminal people out there just walking around the streets than are looking to buy cars on the intarwebs, LOL. And all they can do, same as the people walking by your car, is nothing.
If you don't give the VIN, the buyer will probably move on and you'll lose a possible sale. That's what I would do.
What usefulness it has to them though as a legitimate prospective buyer, has already been covered above.
For the same reason I always wonder why people blur their license plate when they take pics of their car and post them on the intarwebs. I mean it's not like your plate is normally something secret--everyone in the world can see it when you're driving on the road! Same thing goes for the even weirder practice of hiding serial numbers on stuff like electronics in similar situations. Like what the hell is someone going to do with the serial number from your iPod? Impersonate you and, as an imposter of you empty your bank accounts and go on a crime spree claiming to be you, all from your serial number? LOL, some people have way too active imaginations.
Last edited by ES_Revenge; Sep 15th, 2009 at 11:39 PM.
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Sep 17th, 2009 05:16 AM
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Newbie
The Vin is also an indicator of the particular model of a car. Eg. Turbo vs non-turbo.
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Sep 17th, 2009 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by
VerMitsu
The Vin is also an indicator of the particular model of a car. Eg. Turbo vs non-turbo.
+1
As well as CarFax it can be used to do a search on LienQuest to see if there
are any liens on it
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Sep 17th, 2009 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by
pluto
I got an email from someone about my car I'm selling and they asked me for the VIN number. They didn't explain but what they wanted it for, my first assumption was to get a Carproof report. But I paused because I find it odd someone would want that information without even viewing the car first.
Is there some something a would-be identity thief or the like could do with a VIN number or is this a perfectly innocent request?
totally not odd.. I would do that first also... I mean.. say you are on Waterloo.. and i'm in Toronto.. I would rather see if the clean is clean "as you say" before I make a trip over to see it.
Same with ebay Motors.. VIN# check before going to the States to see the car
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Sep 17th, 2009 07:49 AM
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Im looking for a used car now, and if they are far away, I ask for the VIN so Im not driving all the way to look at a lemon.
If they refuse to give me the VIN, then it seems like they are hiding something and I don't bother.
My cuz works at a dealership so he can check them for me.
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Sep 17th, 2009 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by
ES_Revenge
For the same reason I always wonder why people blur their license plate when they take pics of their car and post them on the intarwebs.
Sometimes people with expensive (or what they think is expensive) cars or bikes or what have you will blur the plate# so that potential thieves can't easily find their address.
Of course, they could just pretend to be buyers, but that's more work.
However, I agree, no VIN# no sale for me. Why bother, too many junkers and rebuilds out there...
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Sep 17th, 2009 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by
ES_Revenge
I always wonder why people blur their license plate when they take pics of their car and post them on the intarwebs. I mean it's not like your plate is normally something secret--everyone in the world can see it when you're driving on the road!
Covering your plates at the right times can potentially save you grief if you are participating in some sort of motorsport involving your car. Most people are not covered for insurance on a race course or something and if the insurance company found out...
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Sep 18th, 2009 05:14 PM
#12
Thanks for the opinions folks. It had occurred to me that the VIN is displayed on the vehicle, but somehow the idea of sending it to a potential Nigerian scammer made me a little nervous. There are a ton of them out there, I get a few emails a day from them.
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Sep 18th, 2009 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by
ES_Revenge
For the same reason I always wonder why people blur their license plate when they take pics of their car and post them on the intarwebs. I mean it's not like your plate is normally something secret--everyone in the world can see it when you're driving on the road!
I often wonder about this too. Do you think the same people would get mad if someone else took pics of their car on the street and post it on the internet? haha.
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