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What kept Canadians free from Terrorist Attacks?

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What kept Canadians free from Terrorist Attacks?

Every time I take underground TTC I wonder about this and want learn the different views on this.

This is a free and open society, there are zero barriers for international chains of terrorist activities, so it's not believable there are no operations taking place here.

Were we just lucky, immuned, or someone is watching over us and super vigilant such that attempts (domestic and foreign) are blocked so they failed to take place?

Or the potential attackers lacked incentives or payoff: social welfare, cheap weed, abundant jobs, specialization i.e. our loose border perfect for terrorist financing/training/logistics and attacks are better aimed at another country?

I'd like to believe competence is what kept us secured, but there's also no evidence such competence exists by looking at how certain agencies operate in Canada, comparing to other countries experienced attacks already.

Will our emergency agencies be ready to treat massive injuries? and restore confidence after.
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Umm...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_Ci ... e_shooting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_shoo ... ll,_Ottawa

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/ ... -1.3716222

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/who-is-ma ... -1.2807285


That being said, I'd like to think that our country is relatively less targeted than other countries. Not sure if that's true but that's my sentiment as well
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Massive injury to me would be no one there left to tell what happened or to ask for help from others.

There is no point to instill fear if everyone is gone and nothing is left.
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I'd say the only thing that keeps us from being targeted as much as EU countries is the ocean that separates us from that part of the world. Otherwise, Canada would be a prime target and probably hit much more often considering how soft our illustrious leaders and the general population are.

It certainly isn't competence or vigilance that keeps anyone in Canada safe, and I dread the day when the average citizens realizes just how vulnerable we are.
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felixdd wrote:
Feb 11th, 2018 4:37 pm
Umm...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_Ci ... e_shooting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_shoo ... ll,_Ottawa

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/ ... -1.3716222

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/who-is-ma ... -1.2807285


That being said, I'd like to think that our country is relatively less targeted than other countries. Not sure if that's true but that's my sentiment as well
Yes but we often neglect major change in trends until too late.

Now we get weakly but positively correlated activities to geopolitics.

What if our US cousin decided to stir up a big one, we'd expect to see something closer to the Boston Marathon if not 911?
1. Since Canada is so loose on so many fronts, they may as well use Canadians as the advertisement to all western countries?
Or
2. Since US is such a high-value target, Canada should remain as the safe haven for logistics, sustainability for terrorist organizations?
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Feb 11th, 2018 5:19 pm
Massive injury to me would be no one there left to tell what happened or to ask for help from others.

There is no point to instill fear if everyone is gone and nothing is left.
Logically clean death would be preferred than life long-suffering, but to your dependents, both are really bad.

Hence the discussion on security.
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Feb 11th, 2018 5:19 pm
I'd say the only thing that keeps us from being targeted as much as EU countries is the ocean that separates us from that part of the world. Otherwise, Canada would be a prime target and probably hit much more often considering how soft our illustrious leaders and the general population are.

It certainly isn't competence or vigilance that keeps anyone in Canada safe, and I dread the day when the average citizens realizes just how vulnerable we are.
Perhaps terrorist operators being the smarter ones noticed that too? but they didn't exploit that because?

If I may add we don't monitor people and the dark web they browse, so it's not possible to know who has been radicallized or not. Unless our US counterpart is offering that intel to CSIS, but why should US agencies have our interests in mind?
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Hope this instill some confidence, off CSIS site:
"There was, on average, a four year gap between a mobilizer’s last reported criminal activity and their mobilization to violence. This suggests that, within Canada, mobilizers make a clear transition between criminal and extremist activities. This finding stands in stark contrast to academic literature describing the extremist environment in Europe, where criminal and extremist activities are described as increasingly related—or even completely symbiotic."

Assuming if job abundance and wages growth kept up->lower crime->smaller base for individuals to radicalize.
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The most reason is that we do not have foreign policies that infringe​ on other countries.
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Feb 11th, 2018 6:21 pm
The most reason is that we do not have foreign policies that infringe​ on other countries.
I find it surprising how our government doesn't have much control over how Canadian companies operate overseas. If our foreign policies don't infringe on other countries, then the actions of our companies definitely do.
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"What kept Canadians free from Terrorist Attacks?"

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We tend not to get involved in international political and religious conflicts. We only get involved when human rights violations occur.

Near the end of Harper's term the world started to hate us but I think we're earning back their trust.
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felixdd wrote:
Feb 11th, 2018 4:37 pm
Umm...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_Ci ... e_shooting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_shoo ... ll,_Ottawa

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/ ... -1.3716222

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/who-is-ma ... -1.2807285


That being said, I'd like to think that our country is relatively less targeted than other countries. Not sure if that's true but that's my sentiment as well
Maybe stupidity kept us safe.
Canada is most friendly country to Terrorist among western countries, thanks to our dear P.M, even handout million to terrorist and plan to re-integrate ISIS.
But from ISIS to IA North America, it is their best interest to have current policy stay, nobody want a bomb now.
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my FIL just told me that Trudeau is looking to repatriate Jihadi Jack and give him $20M

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