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What should governments do to prepare for the technological automation of human jobs?

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Automated goods manufacturing & services aren't profitable for businesses to implement without consumers in line to pay for those goods and services. To some degree, the problem is self-correcting. Government will continue to subsidize and incentivize reproduction and immigration. Corporations and shareholders will pay taxes on their profits to make that possible. The one issue that doesn't self-correct is the profit off of automation going to the hands of the few, and not the many.
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Automation through artificial intelligence. Not the regular kind of automation, but the automation where the computer is thinking, learning and making decisions by itself. This is a whole new ball game. And it's not the basic mcdonalds workers that will be screwed but the lawyers, bankers, investors, etc etc. Even pharmaceutical drugs are being made by artificial intelligence nowadays. I don't mind this happening as long as we totally scrap all patent laws and protections. Let corporations duke it out on common ground without any government assistance.

Oh yeah and there's nothing to be done about this. A sad race to the bottom. Make sure you brush up on farming skills because you won't be able to buy anything with money.
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Manual labor people will probably be in art.

Crafting, poetry, movies business, human grown food (Yes this will exist),

Also weed.

Lot and lot of weed.

Weed is the drug of the people without any real goal in life. They can do their own small routine repeatedly for the end of their​ life. Why do you think the government want to legalise it. People will stay home, watching TV while waiting for their check.
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vonblock wrote: Manual labor people will probably be in art.

Crafting, poetry, movies business, human grown food (Yes this will exist),

Also weed.

Lot and lot of weed.

Weed is the drug of the people without any real goal in life. They can do their own small routine repeatedly for the end of their​ life. Why do you think the government want to legalise it. People will stay home, watching TV while waiting for their check.
Are you suggesting we shouldn't legalize it?
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divx wrote: Are you suggesting we shouldn't legalize it?
Of course not!

How will we control the masses when robots steal their job.

We will need something, weed is a good start. Maybe virtual reality too.
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how much tax will robots pay so there would be enough welfare for the humans ?

no money, no welfare. Better stock up
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vonblock wrote:
How will we control the masses when robots steal their job.
We control them with ... Robots. Robot soldiers and Police.
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peli33 wrote: We control them with ... Robots. Robot soldiers and Police.
Haha.

Yeah, also this.
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Mike15 wrote: Automated goods manufacturing & services aren't profitable for businesses to implement without consumers in line to pay for those goods and services. To some degree, the problem is self-correcting. Government will continue to subsidize and incentivize reproduction and immigration. Corporations and shareholders will pay taxes on their profits to make that possible. The one issue that doesn't self-correct is the profit off of automation going to the hands of the few, and not the many.
But it must self-correct, because you need a consumer base of 'many'. Without the masses consuming, you have no product. What we really need is a reboot of the economy as it relates to value (input vs. output).
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Syne wrote: But it must self-correct, because you need a consumer base of 'many'. Without the masses consuming, you have no product. What we really need is a reboot of the economy as it relates to value (input vs. output).
You absolutely need the consumer base, but the wealth still flows up. The bulk of the population spends everything they receive as income. They are paid enough to subsist and consume, but profit from them doing so goes to the capitalist, not the consumer. Wealth begets wealth.
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A consulting firm estimates that between 400 million and 800 million people globally could be displaced by automation.

McKinsey: One-Third Of US Workers Could Be Jobless By 2030 Due To Automation | CNBC
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automation and advanced artificial intelligence is a good thing that can benefit our society greatly. we simply need to reduce the human population to accommodate that. i feel like the human race is better when smaller and less people equals more resources for those people in the world and less inequality.
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brandonly wrote: automation and advanced artificial intelligence is a good thing that can benefit our society greatly. we simply need to reduce the human population to accommodate that. i feel like the human race is better when smaller and less people equals more resources for those people in the world and less inequality.
By extraction...

In the Western World our population is self reducing (ie birth stats for the next generation don’t replace the current one)

Some would say the reason for that is to achieve greater wealth

So where our Parents or Granparents had more kids with just one breadwinner, we now have fewer on two incomes

Where the previous generations were content with far less... we want more... more of everything
Bigger houses, 2 cars, more clothes, more jewellery, more vacations etc than they ever could have dreamed of

Meanwhile, a good lot of the other side of the globe is increasing in population

And their dream is to get more too... but it tends to translate into more power so they can be more like NA

So although your idea may sound great ... in reality we are not going to get there cause more than half the worlds population does not look at the world thru the same lens as you do
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PointsHubby wrote: By extraction...

In the Western World our population is self reducing (ie birth stats for the next generation don’t replace the current one)

Some would say the reason for that is to achieve greater wealth

So where our Parents or Granparents had more kids with just one breadwinner, we now have fewer on two incomes

Where the previous generations were content with far less... we want more... more of everything
Bigger houses, 2 cars, more clothes, more jewellery, more vacations etc than they ever could have dreamed of

Meanwhile, a good lot of the other side of the globe is increasing in population

And their dream is to get more too... but it tends to translate into more power so they can be more like NA

So although your idea may sound great ... in reality we are not going to get there cause more than half the worlds population does not look at the world thru the same lens as you do
and they will remain in poverty until then

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