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What's with all the SUV's and Trucks on the highways?

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What's with all the SUV's and Trucks on the highways?

Why do so many people feel the need to drive an SUV or truck?

Nobody really needs a frigging SUV or Truck unless they a) Have a large family (Rare these days) or b) Need a truck for a living to haul stuff around.

But I am seeing maybe 1 in 3 cars on the 401 as either an SUV or Truck. Why pay so much extra in gasoline? Is this some kind of status symbol. Is it for safety reasons due to people driving in Winter. Toronto's winters are not that bad and there are an increase in sales in the southern USA too, I understand where it almost never snows.
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Shoppersbeermart wrote:
Sep 15th, 2018 12:50 am
Why do so many people feel the need to drive an SUV or truck?

Nobody really needs a frigging SUV or Truck unless they a) Have a large family (Rare these days) or b) Need a truck for a living to haul stuff around.
Who are you again? You must be pretty arrogant to think you can decide for other people what they "really need". You've been around since 2008 and decided to make a thread a new troll account would make, in the wrong forum.
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SUV and Trucks now out sold cars by 2:1 per recent data but the trend has been going for a years now.

The extra gas is minor compared to the convenience and extra room.
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Not sticking my 6'3" ass in a sedan, sorry.
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bombdiggity wrote:
Sep 15th, 2018 1:04 am
Who are you again? You must be pretty arrogant to think you can decide for other people what they "really need". You've been around since 2008 and decided to make a thread a new troll account would make, in the wrong forum.
Well, with so many people complaining "how hard it is to make ends meet" I often wonder the same thing as the OP - at least some of the people complaining about about prices must be these truck/SUV drivers. I especially wonder when I see them idling their engines in drive-throughs.
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Shoppersbeermart wrote:
Sep 15th, 2018 12:50 am
Why do so many people feel the need to drive an SUV or truck?

Nobody really needs a frigging SUV or Truck unless they a) Have a large family (Rare these days) or b) Need a truck for a living to haul stuff around.

But I am seeing maybe 1 in 3 cars on the 401 as either an SUV or Truck. Why pay so much extra in gasoline? Is this some kind of status symbol. Is it for safety reasons due to people driving in Winter. Toronto's winters are not that bad and there are an increase in sales in the southern USA too, I understand where it almost never snows.
Has it ever occurred to you that:
1. They prefer the ease of entry and exit that it affords?
2. They feel safer in it not just in winter?
3. They need the extra space?
4. They can afford it?

Also with the increase in sales of cuvs/SUVs/trucks, resale value of cars will drop as demands drops for them.
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JoeBlack23 wrote:
Sep 15th, 2018 3:33 am
Well, with so many people complaining "how hard it is to make ends meet" I often wonder the same thing as the OP - at least some of the people complaining about about prices must be these truck/SUV drivers. I especially wonder when I see them idling their engines in drive-throughs.
Wondering how people can afford to drive them isn't the same as deciding they don't "need" them. There are various reasons why people opt for SUVs over alternatives, and the TS has made up his/her mind that those reasons don't justify their choice of an SUV.

You said it yourself, not all are the people driving SUVS are ones you hear wonder out loud "oh it sure is hard to make ends meet" through their open windows at the drive-through. The ones who are, well it goes for anything...why have kids/so many kids? Why take annual vacations? Why go to Wonderland? Why go to the theatre? Why pay for internet? Why pay for TV? Why not buy everything second hand? Why even go to the drive-through when fast food is so expensive? You might as well wonder about all those and more, since this logic would apply to everything.

When it comes down to it, "need" isn't always equal to necessity, and people will spend on things they think are better in some way than spending the absolute minimum or not at all on things that are cheaper. It's like threads here where some members claim other members don't "need" a $600 winter jacket but are perfectly fine spending on $100 shoes instead of $40 ones. Everybody chooses to spend their money in different ways on different things and everybody determines what they "need" differently. A person spending $600 for a winter jacket might buy one every decade while the person judging them might take a vacation every year and eat out and drop by the LCBO every weekend. People allocate their expenses differently and you can't tell how they do it by looking at them and making assumptions and judging.
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I have a different answer - 7 year car loans and general accessibility to auto credit. That's why you see so many trucks and SUVs on the roads these days. Same thing with luxury car brands.

But getting back to your rant, you kind of answer most of it yourself:

- Yes, its a status symbol to some people
- Yes, Other needs the space
- Safety is a factor, SUVs are a lot easier to drive in the winter

And so on. To me the more important question is what does it matter? Drive what you want to drive and who cares what other people are doing.

These things tend to go in cycles anyway so don't sweat it. Compact SUVs are now emerging and most of the ones I see are glorified hatchbacks. We're usually one oil/financial crisis away from people embracing smaller vehicles again. There's also EVs on the horizon.
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Those are CUV's aka Boulvard Tigers. Not too many of them would cross even a tiny creek in Muskoka forest :-)
Why people need cell phones if there are still payphones at gas stations?
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For our family, we have 2 economy cars and it was fine for when the kids are growing up but we have out grown the space. The kids are no longer comfortable as I am tall and the kids aren't getting smaller.

The kids also have friends and like to bring 1 each to activities. That puts it as having at least a 6 seater.

Last point for us was weather. It's not getting better. Big snow storms, flash floods, etc. There's not a car that has ground clearance and awd on the market that's also a 7 seater.
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Guess what cars are in our household, that's right an SUV & a truck Face With Stuck-out Tongue And Winking EyeFace With Stuck-out Tongue And Winking Eye Love my SUV, have been driving one since 2002! Never getting into a minivan that's for sure even with three kids, never felt the need!
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Tommy74 wrote:
Sep 15th, 2018 8:17 am
Those are CUV's aka Boulvard Tigers. Not too many of them would cross even a tiny creek in Muskoka forest :-)
Why people need cell phones if there are still payphones at gas stations?
CUV are off road vehicles? LOL
Pay phones at a gas station......been to a gas station lately LOL
Methinks you are waaaay off with those comments.
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Pete_Coach wrote:
Sep 15th, 2018 9:23 am
CUV are off road vehicles? LOL
Pay phones at a gas station......been to a gas station lately LOL
Methinks you are waaaay off with those comments.
Every gas station around my area still has payphone - I was actually surprised to see that ;-) can take some pictures later. And my point was - these ARE CUV's (mostly) or MUV's, XUV's - you name it. Doesn't matter what's the term. People say they came in a "TRUCK" and you look outside and there is a white RAV4 with parked there. Many drivers think they own "go anywhere beast" CRV,RAV4,RDX - but these will never go far in true off-road conditions. There are still fully capable cars around - (4Runner being one of them), but for the most part - they are extinct. Whatever sells counts.
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The most you can do if you don't like it is don't buy one and tell the people you care about not to buy one either. You primarily target the new buyers because automakers will focus on new sales. That's really all you can do, if you wanted to do something.

Personally I never understood the appeal of the CUV/SUV as a commuter vehicle. BOF SUVs I respect for their off-roading ability, but I know they're awful commuter cars. CUVs I don't like because I hate driving pretty much all of them and the few that were good...the car equivalents were much better ie. CX-7 is a much lesser Mazdaspeed 6. I actually prefer minivans which somehow drive better, a sad state of affairs when they were originally one of the worst. The practical side of me prefers wagons and minivans instead of CUVs, but neither is apparently cool and being cool is more important for the general public than frankly anything it seems.

Pickup trucks however I have a more different tune. There's some real reasons for their appeal, first is price, when pickup trucks are discounted they're heavily discounted around clearance time, right now if you want a Nissan Titan or a 2018 Ram you can get discounts of over $15K right now before negotiations. Never see sales for a CUV/SUV that extensive as pickup trucks. Next, pickup trucks are actually nice to drive, take any of them including the more truck feeling Ford and they actually drive better than most CUVs and in some cases as comfortable. Finally for pickup trucks, durability, all pickup trucks were built to take abuse, sure you can find weaknesses in them here and there like you can with all vehicles but generally they will last long and hold up well even if treated like garbage. I personally wouldn't own one because the fuel costs and it barely fits my condo underground, but if you've driven a modern one, its one of the better vehicles to drive.

I like sports cars, but I'm in the distinct minority. My only new car vote was for a sports car. If you wanted me to rate vehicle types as far as my personal preferences it goes, sports car > wagon > sedan/hatch > pickup truck > minivan > BOF SUV > CUV. Clearly my preferences are way out of mainstream because as it stands right now this is likely how the general public sees it, CUV > pickup truck > sedan/hatch > minivan > BOF SUV > wagon > sports car.

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