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who the heck is Lauren Sanchez? And why should I care?
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I try not to apologies but sometimes do it. not because its right thing but it benefits me.
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BiegeToyota wrote:
Jan 10th, 2019 7:58 am
Here's the thing about you women haters.

You whine and complain that woman takes half.

They when you get old, you go to a third world (preferably Asian) country where you think women are submissive and dumb. You give her all her money and build their houses for their brothers (more likely husbands) and parents and take care of their children. Then when they don't need you, they dump you and you have nothing.

Now you wake up and wish there were laws like in Canada where you could at least get half.

Seen it here in Thailand over and over again.
Be careful of what you wish for. There is a new generation of males (and also females) who are completely apathetic to marital/cohabitation relations with either sex.

Whereas in the past males may have seen females as objects of interest, this new group don't really see partners as an attractive proposition at all. Rather, they see the long list of liabilities that results from cohabitation and have decided that they have other things in life that take priority. I'm not talking about the incels that you see on social media - these people have an obsession with women, and hold strong opinions towards them. This new group doesn't really care about forming intimate relationships for the sake of cohabitation and thus will put no effort toward attracting a partner, and will simply reject any attempt to attract themselves.
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I wish my wife was worth $137 billion. I'd love to spend my time being a house husband and cook, clean, and decorate the house with Monet paintings.
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On a less serious note, life is fleeting, make the most of your accomplishments. The world isn't always fair, but closing yourself off from it because of inequities cuts you off from a great deal of enjoyment. A fruitful marriage, even if only temporary, has it's rewards.

I haven't said this enough, but I'll end the evening with a 'God bless'.
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Bezos allegedly cheated on his wife with an TV news anchor that has two kids of her own from a previous relationship.
She is the wife of one of his friends whom is also a business mogul. Given that, Bezos seems to be mostly at fault for his marriage ending in divorce.
He did not sign a prenup either.

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I am 31 and have a cousin who is about 23, he lives near Seattle. He is an interesting guy and gets a lot of female attention, but was recently saying about Half of the least 6 or 8 girls he's gone on one or a few dates with claim to be polyamorous. I never saw any of this as an adult in western Canada, the person usually just cheats and keeps it a secret. I was surprised to hear that, maybe its just a regional thing, but wont be surprised if that is the future of dating. Im glad I wasn't born after 1987
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Mitts87 wrote:
Jan 11th, 2019 12:36 am
I am 31 and have a cousin who is about 23, he lives near Seattle. He is an interesting guy and gets a lot of female attention, but was recently saying about Half of the least 6 or 8 girls he's gone on one or a few dates with claim to be polyamorous. I never saw any of this as an adult in western Canada, the person usually just cheats and keeps it a secret. I was surprised to hear that, maybe its just a regional thing, but wont be surprised if that is the future of dating. Im glad I wasn't born after 1987
There's a book, Dataclysm, by one of the guys who founded OkCupid that covers regional sexual openness in one of its chapters. The Pacific Northwest apparently lives up to its hippie reputation and has a lot of people who openly state their affinity for polyamorous lifestyles. The other regions of the US also have their own sexual cultures distinct from each other. He should try the south or the northeast if he's looking for a greater percentage of people aligned with his values.
Could HAVE, not could OF. What does 'could of' even mean?
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I avoided commenting in this thread to watch it unfold first, it's been neat. :)
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Jan 9th, 2019 5:57 pm
The principle of substitutability reveals the true value of a partner's contribution to the business.
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His accomplishment was a one-in-a-billion shot, his wife is perhaps a one-in-ten-thousand outlier. She should be compensated accordingly, and she'll be fantastically rich nonetheless.
There is definitely merit to the notion that Jeff Bezos is a remarkable individual, and a critical, irreplaceable lynchpin of Amazon's success. I can see the moral argument for claiming that "perhaps Mackenzie doesn't deserve half" of Amazon wealth, even if it was created after their marriage.

However, I'm seeing a lot of problems of people projecting bitterness and anger (particularly at MacKenzie?) in a situation I highly doubt replicates any of ours. Spit their assets 50/50, or 99/1...and they will both remain billionaires. They seem to be both coming out of their marriage amicably; they are both better off after 25 years together than either of them was before they married. Is outrage really necessary here? They're both going to be fine.
kenze wrote:
Jan 9th, 2019 7:37 pm
Bezos did most if not all of the work running the company and she doesn't deserve billions for seeking greener pastures.
If the rumors are to be believed, it's Jeff who seemingly fell for another woman. So why are you accusing MacKenzie of being the one to seek "greener pastures."
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Jan 10th, 2019 12:33 pm
Sex drive is HUGE!
I think the word you're looking for is "mojo." Face With Stuck-out Tongue And Tightly-closed Eyes
Piro21 wrote:
Jan 10th, 2019 3:11 pm
I've been witness to several situations (one in my own family) where a woman will get married to use a guy, then the second something bad happens to him that would disrupt her lifestyle she vanishes and becomes his worst enemy in court, taking the kids and half his income. My job also has divorce cases coming across my desk periodically, and I can see just how many older guys have had their pensions and life savings completely wrecked by low-achieving women leaving them to grow old and die poor, alone, and often suffering from crippling workplace injuries while the ex-wife runs off with the entire family.

It's a thing in immigrant communities, in situations where guys marry single mothers, and in situations where women will come to Canada from poorer countries via marriage. Husband works himself to death, wife does what she always wanted to do and raises kids instead of working, and then when the kids are old enough to leave home she bails with half the money and lives her own life.
Honestly, Piro...I think it is precisely because you are talking about experiences with lower socioeconomic relationships and maybe a particular culture that you are familiar with?

I've said it elsewhere before and some people may accuse me of being "brainwashed by feminism"...but my observation has been that many Canadian professional school cohorts will enroll and graduate more women than men. In Canada, there are many schools where there are more women pursuing post-secondary education than men. The average (in statistics "median") woman does better than the average man by my observations. In my own family (meaning cousins of the same generation) it's about 50% where men earn more than the women. But in my circle of female friends/acquaintances, more women outearn their male partners. One of my bosses far preferred working to mommying/homemaking that she worked up to 80+ hours a week and had her husband and father do more of the housework and caring for her young son.

The other thing, too, is that you are talking about scenarios where that "scheming, evil, lazy wife who runs off" can actually have been exploited and stuck in an unhappy union she would not have agreed to if she weren't coerced. For example, you speak of wives coming from poorer countries via marriage. So, let's say it's a young bride from [poor country] being offered marriage with a Canadian man. Maybe she faces pressure from her family to agree to marry that man she does not love, or perhaps there is a large age gap, or he's controlling or even abusive. But she's poor, and not only worried about poverty...but her parents want her to marry the Canadian so they can come over too and be saved from poverty. That's an immense amount of pressure and there is a clear power/privilege differential. So, excuse me for being blunt, why the fuk is this man seeking a bride from poor country? Who forced him to marry a woman in such a position, instead of seeking a woman who could have more options to voluntarily accept or reject the prospect of a more equal partnership? I find it hard to believe the one-sided "woe is me" story from such husbands.
stack1 wrote:
Jan 10th, 2019 4:37 pm
My in-laws divorced later in life (when the youngest went off to university), My mother in law stayed home until the kids were in middle school and worked in a decent job after that even after the divorce. From what I know, she didn't fight for a portion of my father in law's pension during the divorce. However, her own pension is impacted due the fact that she worked less years. Now, both are retired, but he is financially much more stable.

I think she got the short end of the stick. I don't think she should be in this position just because she was the one to stay home with the kids, but that's what happened.
OK but what prevented mother-in-law from working before the kids were in middle school? Was it totally necessary? Because I know a lot of moms who work at least part-time while their kids are in elementary school. Is she a total victim of her circumstances, or did she have some power over her situation. My own mother only took 2-3 years off, and that was when my brother and I were very young.
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BiegeToyota wrote:
Jan 10th, 2019 7:58 am
Here's the thing about you women haters.

You whine and complain that woman takes half.

They when you get old, you go to a third world (preferably Asian) country where you think women are submissive and dumb. You give her all her money and build their houses for their brothers (more likely husbands) and parents and take care of their children. Then when they don't need you, they dump you and you have nothing.

Now you wake up and wish there were laws like in Canada where you could at least get half.

Seen it here in Thailand over and over again.

That's because men are slave to the poonani. They see a young attractive girl who wants to give it up to them when you're 50 or 60 when all your parts are wrinkled and barely works of course money isn't going to stand n the way of getting that action.

Just look at the men who pay for pornography webcasts where they donate money for the performer tondo certain things. To then it's the direct gratitfsction of knowing she's doing that for him or them and no one else. These performers make so much money from these suckers. Of course your example is on a whole different scale. Safe I say some of these guys know their time is near and they aren't going to take their money to the grave so why not? Best known example is radio host art Bell. The guy is worth a lot of money but his weakness is young Asian women. I think he even murdered his previous wife just to get out of the marriage. That's one theory anyway.
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peanutz wrote:
Jan 11th, 2019 1:28 am

OK but what prevented mother-in-law from working before the kids were in middle school? Was it totally necessary? Because I know a lot of moms who work at least part-time while their kids are in elementary school. Is she a total victim of her circumstances, or did she have some power over her situation. My own mother only took 2-3 years off, and that was when my brother and I were very young.
I'm not sure how it was decided that she stay home. This was in 70/80s, I know she did do most of the childcare/housework. Anyway, *both* she and her husband agreed for her to stay home. Even if she had some power of choice there, I think it was an unfortunate result that she ended up penalized in retirement.

I think she was entitled to part of his pension, but there was conflict over that, and she didn't fight for it. I'm sure there are many people who feel that their ex spouse (including my father in law apparently) don't deserve any of their pension.
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jcon wrote:
Jan 10th, 2019 4:57 pm
It's not "his" net worth, it's "their" net worth and it sounds as though it will be halved.
I see, so 137.1 billion USD is Jeff and Mackenzie's (including her novel profits) total net worth?
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peanutz wrote:
Jan 11th, 2019 1:28 am
I avoided commenting in this thread to watch it unfold first, it's been neat. :)

There is definitely merit to the notion that Jeff Bezos is a remarkable individual, and a critical, irreplaceable lynchpin of Amazon's success. I can see the moral argument for claiming that "perhaps Mackenzie doesn't deserve half" of Amazon wealth, even if it was created after their marriage.

However, I'm seeing a lot of problems of people projecting bitterness and anger (particularly at MacKenzie?) in a situation I highly doubt replicates any of ours. Spit their assets 50/50, or 99/1...and they will both remain billionaires. They seem to be both coming out of their marriage amicably; they are both better off after 25 years together than either of them was before they married. Is outrage really necessary here? They're both going to be fine.
It's not about being fine, no one is leaving the table not-wealthy, it's about marshaling your resources at your discretion. Your 99/1 split is more reasonable in light of the contributions of each party, but the courts are unlikely to rule so reasonably in this matter.

Marriage is a great institution with the right person; that said, one needs to speak truth to power in life.
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Jan 11th, 2019 8:39 am
I see, so 137.1 billion USD is Jeff and Mackenzie's (including her novel profits) total net worth?
Pity I can't upvote the funny in this thread.
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Jan 11th, 2019 10:04 am
Pity I can't upvote the funny in this thread.
Thanks for this. I glossed over their exchange the first time and didn't realize her nice repartee until you drew attention to it.
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Supercooled wrote:
Jan 11th, 2019 1:29 am
That's because men are slave to the poonani. They see a young attractive girl who wants to give it up to them when you're 50 or 60 when all your parts are wrinkled and barely works of course money isn't going to stand n the way of getting that action.

Just look at the men who pay for pornography webcasts where they donate money for the performer tondo certain things. To then it's the direct gratitfsction of knowing she's doing that for him or them and no one else. These performers make so much money from these suckers. Of course your example is on a whole different scale. Safe I say some of these guys know their time is near and they aren't going to take their money to the grave so why not? Best known example is radio host art Bell. The guy is worth a lot of money but his weakness is young Asian women. I think he even murdered his previous wife just to get out of the marriage. That's one theory anyway.
Plenty of young guys get taken to the cleaners. I'd say even more as they don't have too much experience.
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Oh man now I see how you dump a stock. You hang on to a stock. overcome the difficulty with company and management. make company more profitable and strong.
But dont be loyal and stupid when company is trying to screw over you. Dump it and take profits and go on with your life. Nothing wrong with that.
I dont care about Ethics, morals, rules or laws. I will apologies only when I get caught.
I try not to apologies but sometimes do it. not because its right thing but it benefits me.

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