Why buy a VW

[gilboman]

Before this thread degrades into more name calling, it's sufficient to say that a large number of people (not to mention studies) agree that VW quality is not what it used to be and certainly not enough to justify any premium. No doubt you can get a lemon of any make, but the concensus here is no coincidence.

Don't get me wrong, I personally like VW, 5 or 6 years ago given a choice between a Golf or a Civic, I wouldn't hesitate to take the Golf at the drop of a hat.

I don't think this is symptomatic of all German manufacturers though, BMW are still solidly built, still the best handling in their class and are not consistently cheaping out on parts and interior.

BMW are good compared to other german makers, still behind the japanese but the driving experience of a Bimmer makes up for it.

but VW dont offer better drive, they have solid rear suspensions, use chasis from the 70s, FWD, worst tranny (compare a VW manual to a Honda, day and night) and VW engines are pretty weak as well. just compare a VR6 to a *** V6

[bionicbadger]

I don't think this is symptomatic of all German manufacturers though, BMW are still solidly built, still the best handling in their class and are not consistently cheaping out on parts and interior.

You should change that to BMWs built in Germany. The ones built in the states suck.

[ichpen]

BMW are good compared to other german makers, still behind the japanese but the driving experience of a Bimmer makes up for it.

but VW dont offer better drive, they have solid rear suspensions, use chasis from the 70s, FWD, worst tranny (compare a VW manual to a Honda, day and night) and VW engines are pretty weak as well. just compare a VR6 to a *** V6

Have not driven a US made beamer so can't comment on quality.

Handling wise though 3 and 5 series are still top-notch. Near perfect weight distribution, rear wheel drive and superbly tuned suspension. Out of the Japs Lexus is pretty close, but still not quite there.

My 93 Corrado VR6 was pretty nippy.... But then again it used to weigh about as much as a door panel on the current Golf. Engines of VWs are not too bad, it's just that they weigh so much these days. Makes them feel sluggish.

[bluetroll]

the windows fall out of the GTIs

[mjl_toronto]

I know your stupid. It's spelt VTEC. Not V-Tech the telephone maker.

It was meant to be a joke.

[prof_frink]

I know your stupid. It's spelt VTEC. Not V-Tech the telephone maker.

it's always funny when people misspell 'spell'

[romsan04]

Before this thread degrades into more name calling, it's sufficient to say that a large number of people (not to mention studies) agree that VW quality is not what it used to be and certainly not enough to justify any premium. No doubt you can get a lemon of any make, but the concensus here is no coincidence.

Don't get me wrong, I personally like VW, 5 or 6 years ago given a choice between a Golf or a Civic, I wouldn't hesitate to take the Golf at the drop of a hat.

I don't think this is symptomatic of all German manufacturers though, BMW are still solidly built, still the best handling in their class and are not consistently cheaping out on parts and interior.

100% agree

[Freezer]

hm... my dad is a VW fanatic. He burnt down one VW vanagon and killed another lol. The second one died almost 20 years after it was manufactured. I think it had over 360K's on it. We went on so many trips with that van.

Old reliable until it bit the dust on a trip to Stettler AB.

Would I but a VW? Maybe not, I'd rather spend just a tad more for a driver's car, BMW.

How's the IS300 compared to a 328i?

[charger]

Just for your information. The german built gulf's and Jetta's have the same reliability as the ones built in Mexico.

My parents have a cavalier and it has had almost no problems against all odds. It must have been a good day in the factory.

[lucretius]

Wow, looking at that chart, I can see that VW really does suck -- it's not just me. Add to that all the reports of crooked dealerships and lack of support from both dealerships and VW and I'm really wondering why folks are still buying VWs.

[new_vr]

worst tranny (compare a VW manual to a Honda, day and night)

Compared to a honda, yes it is worse.
Compared to a toyota...at least it doesn't feel like it was made of plastic.
Compared to a subaru...it's heaven

[sixer]

80's and early-mid 90's VW's were good.

They're now all crap and should be cheaper then a GM product.