Why cant the TTC do this?

[UrbanPoet]

Hire new people to take over the jobs of the old people?
They make it seem like your not allowed to do taht...
Or why cant they hire people on contract?

Im not that familar to Unions, and for people that arent too familar with them will probably think the same thing as me. "Hire new ppl to replace the greedy bums!!"

[Homer88]

I believe it is more difficult to fire people when theres a union

[Mr. Robo]

It's the same with government and postal workers. Unions protect their jobs.

[GateGuardian]

If I remember correctly, Bob Rae passed a bill if not a similar bill that made this action illegal.

[gman]

Second, their jobs are protected by the Union which have rules regarding what % of new workers can be hired,

I am pretty sure this is false. Union seldeom disallow hiring more workers if that happens at all. More workers mean more power to the Union. Also, in theory, less work load to the existing workers. What union protect is the seniority. That is they have to layoff 'new' workers before they can touch the 'old' workers.

[eelfliw]

Because Canada is a left-leaning country, scabs are often frawned upon.

That said, I'm all for opening up the market to competitions from the private sector. TTC has had the monopoly for too long.

[kingsley]

The last time a company hired scabs someone got killed.

[NLI10D]

Because Canada is a left-leaning country, scabs are often frawned upon.

That said, I'm all for opening up the market to competitions from the private sector. TTC has had the monopoly for too long.

its a great idea but it will tie up the road. 2-3 bus companies u could choose from to get to somewhere. obviously these companies would want as many people riding their bus as oppose to the competition. cheaper fair, more frequent service. then of course the competition would try to match it too. that's alot of congestion and pollution.

[ryanj]

Why cant the TTC do this?

what they should do is restrict the service instead of going on a full blown strike. like have half the buses than normal on each route. sure it would be crowded but then it will show how dependent Toronto is on the TTC.

[Homer88]

Im all pro for killing off the union and firing all the staff whos making more than 20 bucks an hour and wanting a raise.

[guest10586]

I actually read it in a case study where the Management of a company was hiring alot of workers. They gave the new workers better packages and pursaded them to tell other workers to opt out of the Union. In the end, the Union was disbanded.

What company is this? I'll go to that company and make my own union.

[AudiDude]

Every time an essential or near essential service is interrupted, resourceful people find different ways to get the job done. A strike will only lessen the amount of riders that use the service because it will allow the opportunity to explore new possibilities for those inconvenienced. When Bell Canada had a major outage on July 16, 1999, all the affected businesses learned to have multiple telcos providing dialtone so that if one goes, the others will provide service still. This new style of thinking has cost Bell Canada FOREVER. Nobody will ever "put all their eggs in one basket" again. Every strike or negative action will draw attention to the parties involved. I know some people that would like to publish TTC wages and their appropriate associated job titles, so that the people and students that take the TTC and work a lot more for a lot less can see where their money is going.

[ryanj]

Every time an essential or near essential service is interrupted, resourceful people find different ways to get the job done. A strike will only lessen the amount of riders that use the service because it will allow the opportunity to explore new possibilities for those inconvenienced. When Bell Canada had a major outage on July 16, 1999, all the affected businesses learned to have multiple telcos providing dialtone so that if one goes, the others will provide service still. This new style of thinking has cost Bell Canada FOREVER. Nobody will ever "put all their eggs in one basket" again. Every strike or negative action will draw attention to the parties involved.

thats true, but the ttc is not in any direct competition with any other company. and i dont think the ttc is going to lose many riders over this, actually with the gas prices rising im sure they are going to get more riders this summer.

[gman]

I actually read it in a case study where the Management of a company was hiring alot of workers. They gave the new workers better packages and pursaded them to tell other workers to opt out of the Union. In the end, the Union was disbanded.

A normal union will not allow the company to hire new workers with better package, period. Otherwise, the company is not exactly an "union shop".

[evilserge]

Every time an essential or near essential service is interrupted, resourceful people find different ways to get the job done. A strike will only lessen the amount of riders that use the service because it will allow the opportunity to explore new possibilities for those inconvenienced. When Bell Canada had a major outage on July 16, 1999, all the affected businesses learned to have multiple telcos providing dialtone so that if one goes, the others will provide service still. This new style of thinking has cost Bell Canada FOREVER. Nobody will ever "put all their eggs in one basket" again. Every strike or negative action will draw attention to the parties involved. I know some people that would like to publish TTC wages and their appropriate associated job titles, so that the people and students that take the TTC and work a lot more for a lot less can see where their money is going.

the difference between ttc and bell is that the ttc is a monopoly and theres no other competition. im a student myself and i have no other options there are no other bus services in the gta to get me to class for $2, if i were to purchase a car id have to worry about a parking pass, insurance, gas and the car itself. i cannot bike to class, its a 1 1/2 hour bus/subway ride. I will still be using the ttc after the strike or after any outragous price hike same with the thousands of riders everyday, we are depend on this service.

Lastly you cannot replace ttc staff, think of how much time and money it would take to train new staff. This can all end monday for all we know.