A genesis to pick up girls?
Let's hug it out
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Ford and GM are garbage too. There is a reason why they have such a low re-sale value.proteinJunkie wrote: ↑Right.. because ford / gm , toyota and honda aren't garbage..?
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good points..liorsyncro wrote: ↑Valid points from everyone and I too think the reason a lot of people are buying them is because they offer a good value for the money. I own a brand new Civic and I don't think the interior is that bad. I tested the Elantra/Forte and while the interior is much better than earlier generations (thanks to a German designer), the car itself just feels like cheap Chinese crap. It really does. Not just the interior but even the powertrain. For the same price I paid for the Civic I could have gotten heated leather seats with the Elantra. That's nice and all but how much would I lose in residual value with the car being a Hyundai? Not only that but the heating element for the rear seats sits just above the gas tank. Now I've always been nervous about heated seats but when the whole thing sits above the gas tank, you kinda wonder how much margin for error there is should something happens to short there circuit as it most likely will.
And don't even get me started about those Genesis owners, particularly the ones who own the coupe and mod the crap out of it. They're weaving in and out traffic, full throttle acceleration, etc. Like who the hell are you guys kidding exactly? You're driving a p.o.s. Hyundai not an M5.
Jun 26th, 2012 7:04 pm
People think with their wallet too much sometimes and ultimately you get what you pay for. Sure the Elantra may offer more amenities for the buck, but what I'm looking at is once the warranty expires, what is the long-term reliability of the vehicle? How does the car handle? How smooth is the engine and transmission? What would be the residual value once I decide to sell it? Hyundai/Kia fail on all these points. I almost choked on my Coke when I read that CR said the new Civic had a choppy ride. Huh?! It rides on 4 wheel independent suspension including a new 5-point multi-link double wishbone in the rear. It's one of the most sophisticated designs in this class. In contrast, the Elantra rides on a solid axle design from a 1970s Beetle. And the Civic has a choppy ride?mikeymike1 wrote: ↑good points..
To add to this I'll go as far as to say the majority of Hyundai owners are more-less 'payment' buyers vs 'car' buyers.
Afterall, Hyundai pretty well single handidly created the ultra-long-term-zero-down-perpetually-upsidedown-segment where every other manufacturer is now mimicking.
Wait a couple more years when all the threads we will be seeing are:
"Just wrote off my Hyundai and Insurance is giving me 5k less than what I owe"
"Traded in my Hyundai and dealer had to move 6k neg equity into new auto loan"
"Can't buy a new car because I don't have the required down payment of 6k to cover the neg equity"
"I'm stuck in this Hyundai until it matures in 8 years"
"I can't sell my car privately because I owe more than what its worth and have no money to get out of it"
Jun 26th, 2012 7:20 pm
c'mon now.. you actually think Hyundai buyers actually think of these things? If they did they wouldn't be signing on for 7year and 8year amortizations. They just want a car that gets them to WalMart and backliorsyncro wrote: ↑People think with their wallet too much sometimes and ultimately you get what you pay for. Sure the Elantra may offer more amenities for the buck, but what I'm looking at is once the warranty expires, what is the long-term reliability of the vehicle? How does the car handle? How smooth is the engine and transmission? What would be the residual value once I decide to sell it? Hyundai/Kia fail on all these points.
I have no faith whatsoever in Consumers Reports. People we're dieing in rollovers in their Ford Exploaders and Consumers Reports not once gave the vehicle a not-recommended.liorsyncro wrote: ↑ I almost choked on my Coke when I read that CR said the new Civic had a choppy ride. Huh?! It rides on 4 wheel independent suspension including a new 5-point multi-link double wishbone in the rear. It's one of the most sophisticated designs in this class. In contrast, the Elantra rides on a solid axle design from a 1970s Beetle. And the Civic has a choppy ride?
Ohhh gotta read the fine print there on that 3 payments. They only pay the principle and considering its simple interest formula the first ie: $200 payment of that term would be approx $55.00 x3.liorsyncro wrote: ↑ I don't know if you've seen the new Kia ads on TV. It starts with "when you have a line up like this you don't need special offers to move the cars off the lot". And surely enough a week after the ad first appeared, they made a revision to it for 0% financing for 84 months and they'll make your first 3 payments. LOL!!
Jun 26th, 2012 8:52 pm
Agree 100%. 10-15 years ago it was a different story, but not so much in today's marketplace.
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Gurkha9 wrote: ↑That may have been true 10 years ago, but not so much today.
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a ... /302279984
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right. and having an M5 gives you the right to drive recklessly in traffic.liorsyncro wrote: ↑ And don't even get me started about those Genesis owners, particularly the ones who own the coupe and mod the crap out of it. They're weaving in and out traffic, full throttle acceleration, etc. Like who the hell are you guys kidding exactly? You're driving a p.o.s. Hyundai not an M5.
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