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Why EVs are garbage

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xrvr wrote:
Jul 11th, 2018 6:58 pm
You have fun comparing whatever the hell you want to compare, while bending over at the gas station, and taking it up the &^%.
I'll make sure to wave at you, while driving by in my quiet EV.
See this is what i mean a perfect example of the EV owner, honestly though thank you, i actually appreciate your sacrifice to drive an EV and save me gas to use.

Ill be sure to use all those extra $'s i saved by not buying an EV to spend on gas, talk about getting bent over and taking it up the &^% right ? I mean what kind of person says "ok this premium is worth it because ill finally break even in 7 years so sign me up"
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NoPistons wrote:
Jul 11th, 2018 6:08 pm
Why does enjoying an ICE car mean you are young and immature ? Im pretty sure there are plenty of elderly people that would scoff at your EV.

There are plenty of people that "grew up" and still prefer a gas vehicle over an electric vehicle any day, it's so surprising how many people forget that building a battery for an electric vehicle is not "clean" and that building a "regular" car is sometimes more environmentally safe.

Maybe one day the EV fad will die? who knows. All i know is that people see Tesla's as status symbols and give two craps about electric cars. What if hydrogen cars are the future? maybe someone will tell EV owners that they will grow up one day and cast aside the notion that EV's are actually that good.

/end rant.

Also would like to add that the Distance until recharge is very low compared to even my gas guzzler sports car. When an EV can do 1000kms on a charge let me know. Tesla is rated at a max of 337 miles ? under normal driving conditions .... you cant count hypermiling as that is just plain old silly like this article

https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/05/tes ... milestone/
Yes like you drive 1000 km in a day... That's like saying you have a lambo but too cheap to spend money at a race track to maximize that 600+ hp.
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fromano wrote:
Jul 11th, 2018 6:19 pm
1000km ... seriously how often does anyone outside of a long-haul trucker drive that kind of distance in a day?
I think 1000 km would be my preferred range. I might be able to get by with 700 km and a 30 minute fast charge to 75% capacity while stopped for lunch. I wouldn't want to hang around a charger for 2 hours as i prefer to drive in daylight hours.

Vancouver to Calgary AB..................... 970 km
Vancouver to Edmonton AB ............ 1,160 km
Vancouver to Hinton AB ...................... 877 km
Vancouver to Prince George BC ......... 782 km
Vancouver to Cranbrook BC ............... 843 km

All drives I make periodically, not every year, and I'm not a long haul semi driver. One year I made 4 of those drives in a single season between April and November. Other years Vancouver to Calgary 3 times. I did Vancouver to Red Lake Ontario a few years ago. Timed it - about 34 hours sitting in the car each way.

Closer to many of you, you have:

Toronto to Timmins .............................. 703 km
Toronto to Quebec City ........................ 805 km
Toronto to Thunder Bay .................... 1,394 km
Toronto to Red Lake ON ................... 1,942 km

I know a couple of people who made that Red Lake trip several times a year. One guy did it overnight, leaving after dinner and arriving in the morning.

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radeonboy wrote:
Jul 11th, 2018 7:14 pm
Yes like you drive 1000 km in a day... That's like saying you have a lambo but too cheap to spend money at a race track to maximize that 600+ hp.
Some people do. I do not understand your analogy but ok then.

Hey its piece of mind to not have to find a charger if i take long trips.
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NewsyL wrote:
Jul 11th, 2018 7:16 pm
I think 1000 km would be my preferred range. I might be able to get by with 700 km and a 30 minute fast charge to 75% capacity while stopped for lunch. I wouldn't want to hang around a charger for 2 hours as i prefer to drive in daylight hours.

Vancouver to Calgary AB..................... 970 km
Vancouver to Edmonton AB ............ 1,160 km
Vancouver to Hinton AB ...................... 877 km
Vancouver to Prince George BC ......... 782 km
Vancouver to Cranbrook BC ............... 843 km

All drives I make periodically, not every year, and I'm not a long haul semi driver. One year I made 4 of those drives in a single season between April and November. Other years Vancouver to Calgary 3 times. I did Vancouver to Red Lake Ontario a few years ago. Timed it - about 34 hours sitting in the car each way.

Closer to many of you, you have:

Toronto to Timmins .............................. 703 km
Toronto to Quebec City ........................ 805 km
Toronto to Thunder Bay .................... 1,394 km
Toronto to Red Lake ON ................... 1,942 km

I know a couple of people who made that Red Lake trip several times a year. One guy did it overnight, leaving after dinner and arriving in the morning.

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Damn that is some intense driving. Diesel is my preferred method of long distance travel.
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radeonboy wrote:
Jul 11th, 2018 7:05 pm
It's okay, you haven't been in one to try, so we'll let that laughable comment slide.
I don't think I'm missing much...9.7sec 0-60!!!

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vkizzle wrote:
Jul 11th, 2018 7:25 pm
I don't think I'm missing much...9.7sec 0-60!!!

Excellent job at finding the 0-60 times of the OLD Leaf. Congrats! :facepalm: :facepalm:
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koffey wrote:
Jul 10th, 2018 1:35 pm
No manual sucks.
Electric motors have maximum torque at 0 rpm. This is why they don't need to idle and they don't even need a transmission. They just need one gear—the equivalent of a gas engine transmission's top gear—and that's it. How do you manually shift one gear?
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vkizzle wrote:
Jul 11th, 2018 7:25 pm
I don't think I'm missing much...9.7sec 0-60!!!

This is what you failed to find.



The results:
0-50 km/h: 3.1 s
0-60 mph: 7.5 s
0-100 km/h in 8.0 s
0-140 km/h in 17.0 s
max speed in 18.6 s

80-120 km/h in 5.6 s
70-140 km/h in 12.4 s
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radeonboy wrote:
Jul 11th, 2018 7:14 pm
Yes like you drive 1000 km in a day... That's like saying you have a lambo but too cheap to spend money at a race track to maximize that 600+ hp.
You got it backwards bra.

What you're describing are a good percentage of EV owners because they are too cheap to buy an EV at full price without handouts.

I may eventually buy one but not until at least smugness associated with owning one wears off.
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radeonboy wrote:
Jul 11th, 2018 7:30 pm
Excellent job at finding the 0-60 times of the OLD Leaf. Congrats! :facepalm: :facepalm:
7.5sec is still shit.

https://www.motortrend.ca/en/news/nissa ... contender/

2018 Nissan Leaf SL
BASE PRICE $36,853
PRICE AS TESTED $37,738
VEHICLE LAYOUT Front-engine, FWD, 5-pass, 4-door hatchback
ENGINE 0.0L/147-hp/236-lb-ft
TRANSMISSION 1-speed automatic
CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST) 3,503 lb (58/42%)
WHEELBASE 106.3 in
LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT 176.4 x 70.5 x 61.4 in
0-60 MPH 7.5 sec
QUARTER MILE 15.8 sec @ 87.6 mph
BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 129 ft
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NoPistons wrote:
Jul 11th, 2018 7:20 pm
Damn that is some intense driving. Diesel is my preferred method of long distance travel.
I drive a 3 row SUV to carry my samples and trade show booth, etc etc. I'm shopping a new vehicle right now and I'm willing to downsize a bit. I considered the new Chev Equinox with turbo 1.6L diesel and 5.0L/100km highway mileage some drivers are getting. With the 58L tank the diesel has you have pretty much 1,000 km range. The seats, which seemed a bit short under the thighs, and potential lack of power on the mountain roads and two lane highways hold me back from considering it.

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What you describe as too cheap to buy an EV at full price without handouts, I view as smart. Like I said to the OP..."Maybe it's because you pay taxes like the rest of us, but weren't smart enough to accept your own money back when the government was wanting to hand it back to you."
BeaverLiquor wrote:
Jul 11th, 2018 7:36 pm
You got it backwards bra.

What you're describing are a good percentage of EV owners because they are too cheap to buy an EV at full price without handouts.

I may eventually buy one but not until at least smugness associated with owning one wears off.
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radeonboy wrote:
Jul 11th, 2018 7:40 pm
What you describe as too cheap to buy an EV at full price without handouts, I view as smart. Like I said to the OP..."Maybe it's because you pay taxes like the rest of us, but weren't smart enough to accept your own money back when the government was wanting to hand it back to you."
After your lease is up and there are no rebates, you'll be asking for advice on finding an economy shitbox to hold you until you can afford a BEV on your own.
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vkizzle wrote:
Jul 11th, 2018 7:53 pm
After your lease is up and there are no rebates, you'll be asking for advice on finding an economy shitbox to hold you until you can afford a BEV on your own.
What lease? Don't assume.

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