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Dec 6th, 2008 05:10 PM #1Sr. Member



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Which winter tires should I get?
Hi,
I drive a 2006 Saturn Ion 3 Quad Coupe and have no idea what size winter tire and rim to get. Can anyone help? My current all season tires at P205/55R16 89H. Are any of those numbers flexible? Tiretrack.com suggested I get 15 inch with 195 mm? Does that make sense to get smaller tires? Also, let's talk about rims. My friend says I need to get the right lug nut pattern. What is that all about? Thanks.Last edited by Typhoon; Dec 7th, 2008 at 10:53 AM.
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Dec 6th, 2008 05:18 PM #2Deal Addict




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Dec 6th, 2008 05:26 PM #3
This site will tell you your tire's size: http://www.tirerack.com/index_w.jsp
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Dec 7th, 2008 12:31 AM #4Deal Addict




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I used www.activegreenross.com to get my winter tires and so i recommend it for you too, and assuming yours is as follows cuz there is also ION-3, here is what i found using their "tire selector". Tons of locations across Ontario, call them to see which locations has your desired tire in stock... hopefully, the closest isn't Ottawa.
You have selected the following Vehicle:
Saturn - Ion which was Made in 2006 with Options: ION-2 Quad Coupe & Sedan
The Size Found Was: P205/55R16 89H
We have found 9 different tire options for your vehicle:
Manufacturer Tire Size Price Description Detail
Yokohama P205/55R16 V $178.20 W.DRIVE BTL more information
Bridgestone P205/55R16 V $197.40 Blizzak LM-25 BSW more information
Michelin P205/55R16 H $199.20 Pilot Alpin PA2 BSW more information
Michelin P205/55R16 H $199.20 Pilot Alpin PA2 BSW more information
Michelin P205/55R16 H $200.80 Pilot Alpin PA2 BSW more information
Michelin P205/55R16 V $219.20 Pilot Alpin PA2 BSW more information
Michelin P205/55R16 V $221.60 94V Pilot Alpin PA3 BSW more information
Michelin P205/55R16 H $231.20 Pilot Alpin PA2 BSW more information
Bridgestone P205/55R16 H $247.20 Blizzak LM-22 BSW
**** H,V are the speed ratings (do some research on the net to find out the difference) between the two. usually, for winter, people drop down one speed rating from the all-seasons.
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Dec 7th, 2008 08:11 AM #5
No offense but those prices suck (I believe installation is included though for Active Green and Ross). Check the clicktire.com prices (and according to other posters, if you call Alex, the prices are a bit better than what's even posted on the website). Add $40 for delivery to Toronto and then about $50 locally to mount the tires onto your existing rims if you're not purchasing a separate set of steel wheels for your winters.
P205/55R16
General - Altimax Arctic
Prix
205/55R16Q
GARRTIC-10019
108.03$
Dunlop - Graspic DS-2
Prix
205/55R16Q
DS2-1019
126.88$
Goodyear - Ultra Grip Ice
Prix
205/55R16Q
UGI-1011
135.58$
Dunlop - SP Winter Sport 3D
Prix
205/55R16 XLV
3D-9003
139.93$
Goodyear - Eagle Ultra Grip GW3
Marque : Goodyear
Modèle : Eagle Ultra Grip GW3
Prix
205/55R16H
GW3-1007
145.73$
Dunlop - SP Winter Sport 3D
Prix
205/55R16H
3D-9004
147.18$
Goodyear - Ultra Grip Performance
Prix
205/55R16 XLV
ULTRAPER-1001
150.08$
Yokohama - IG20
Prix
205/55R16T
IG20-1022
155.88$
Bridgestone - Blizzak WS60
Prix
205/55R16R
WS60-1018
158.78$
Bridgestone - Blizzak LM25
Prix
205/55R16H
LM25-1003
160.23$
Pirelli - Winter Carving Edge
Prix
205/55R16T
CARVING-1007
160.23$
Pirelli - Winter 210 Sottozero
Prix
205/55R16H
SOTTO-1003
161.68$
Continental - ContiWinterContact TS810
Prix
205/55R16H
TS810-4006
167.48$
Michelin - Pilot Alpin PA3
Prix
205/55R16H
PA3-1002
168.50$
Michelin - X-Ice Xi2
Prix
205/55R16T
XI2-1019
170.38$
Pirelli - Winter 210 SnowSport
Prix
205/55R16H
210snow-20032
176.18$
Michelin - Primacy Alpin PA3
Prix
205/55R16H
179.08$
Pirelli - Winter 210 SnowSport
205/55R16H
210snow-20031
184.88$
Pirelli - Winter 210 Sottozero
205/55R16H
SOTTO-1002
190.68$
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Dec 7th, 2008 10:54 AM #6Sr. Member
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I have edited my first post with new information I have:
I drive a 2006 Saturn Ion 3 Quad Coupe and have no idea what size winter tire and rim to get. Can anyone help? My current all season tires at P205/55R16 89H. Are any of those numbers flexible? Tiretrack.com suggested I get 15 inch with 195 mm? Does that make sense to get smaller tires? Also, let's talk about rims. My friend says I need to get the right lug nut pattern. What is that all about? Also, tirerack.com appears to be US based and doesn't ship to Canada. It was a useful site for sure, but I can't order from them. Anyone want to suggest the best place in Canada that I can go to to get the tires and rims and have them installed? Thanks.Last edited by Typhoon; Dec 7th, 2008 at 11:09 AM.
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Dec 7th, 2008 12:04 PM #7
Yes, your choices are somewhat flexible - I strongly suggest you try the sites that were recommended above in the replies. They will tell you what optional tire sizes you can use if you are planning on getting a separate set of rims for your winter tires.
If you're using the same wheels that you already have on your car then you will be limited to that wheel diameter (16"). By going down a diameter size (15"), you can better your traction in snow because you will also be recommended to get narrower tires (the 195mm you mentioned). What this does is basically concentrate the weight of the vehicle onto a skinnier patch of rubber which "digs" in more into the snow. This also generally saves you money on the winter tire (and will help to fund getting a set of dedicated winter rims so your summer rims don't get damaged by salt and also saves you time when it comes time to switching over the tires in the Spring/Fall).
The smaller option is to go 195/60R15 for your car but do yourself a favour and give a call to Alex from www.clicktire.com in Quebec. He'll ship you tires or tires mounted/balanced on wheels for your specific car in about 2 days.
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Dec 7th, 2008 01:35 PM #8
You are very right about the US based aspect of tire rack. While there is very good information in their site, it can be misleading for many Canadians that are not knowledgeable of the differences in car models and regulatory requirements.
You cannot just go on the site and order tires that are in their list. Many times the wheel size and tire size for your Canadian cars are not even on in their lists. Be careful of the information you get from that site.
I am not saying don't use Tire Rack, I am just saying be careful of the data.
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Dec 7th, 2008 02:12 PM #9Sr. Member
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Have I mentioned that you guys are awesome! You are such a great aid in finding information on anything! Anyways, I checked clicktire and their site is only in French. Unfortunately I'm a little dull in my French. Are there any other sites that I should check. I'm pretty sure I need 195/60r15 tires. Quick question. My friend is selling used tires for dirt cheap but they are 195/65r15. That should be fine right? I checked Canadian Tire's page and they seem a bit pricy (about 100 per tire plus 90 per alloy rim which is like 800 bucks). Any other suggestions? Thanks so much guys.
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Dec 8th, 2008 07:14 AM #10
The 195/65R15's should fit if you get a set of 15" wheels (since you said you had 16's on now) but do call up wherever you're planning to buy them from to see if there are any issues with fit (some cars can in theory go down a size but require special rims because they have a car that has large brakes that won't permit generic wheels to fit over them). If you call up Clicktire at the number in the top right corner, you'll be able to ask them in English about the tires/wheel combo you want. (Calling might cost you $2-$5 but you'll probably save $75-100).
Try this post of mine if you want to take a second try at deciphering the website
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...&postcount=218
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Prix ? Mama ... is this in Quebec ?
Where were you dude when i wanted tires installed last week !?
I'm going to check out the tires for my car. I hope i didn't lose too much blood ...
Edited:
Checked and those prices were $30 less per tire and they use UPS. Cool. Maybe next time !
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Dec 8th, 2008 11:16 AM #12Newbie
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I got the primacy alpin and it works great! no slipping, sliding away. Ok its the beginning of the winter we'll see once the big storm hits. I drove in Toronto on Sat when it was real snowing on the highway and local with no probs. They are a bit pricey, with steel rims and 16' i paid about $1000 taxes and rebate all in, at active green n'ross.
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Dec 8th, 2008 05:00 PM #13
I'm new to this forum so forgive me if I covered something already posted.
Two points: first make sure the tire is actually a winter tire (the ratings were updated Oct 14/08): http://www.betiresmart.ca/buying/win...oc2=winterList
Second, make sure the tire hasn't expired (they have a shelf life of only 6 years): http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4826897
If it's older than 6 years, it is unsafe regardless of tread depth. The date of manufacture is at the end of the dot code usually facing the underside of the car. The first two numbers are the week it was made, the next one or two numbers is the year. Example "414" means 41st week of 1994. "4902" means the tire was made exactly six years ago this week (49th week, 2002) and therefore is no longer safe to drive.
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Dec 8th, 2008 06:14 PM #14
Sorry guy - if it's any consolation, I missed out as well as I bought mine a few wks before I heard about clicktire on another thread! I paid more for my tires "on sale" and was denied my rebate submission from General Tire because of that whereas if I had purchased them for less at regular price from clicktire I would have also gotten an extra $20 back! So, I feel it's my duty to point out the potential savings for others to make up for the savings I lost out on

I'll definitely check them out in the spring as I'm looking for some new tires/rims.
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Dec 9th, 2008 12:47 PM #15
Does Clicktire.com have feature to switch to English? My French is a little rusty.
Like for example I can't tell if the tires they offer are in stock or not in my size.
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