Without getting into semantics, avoiding conversations involving patents, IMS, EVS, AMR-WB, etc., as I mentioned before there's nothing stopping any VoIP provider from using anything it wants over cellular data, and since you're paying for cellular data, Rogers is more than happy to allow you to use cellular data. So, if some VoIP service comes out that uses the same amount of data and the same audio codec over cellular data or at home, you're welcome to use it. But it can't offer end-to-end QoS.Tichi wrote: ↑Feb 7th, 2017 10:18 amBut if a VoIP provider supports VoLTE protocol and writes an app that supports VoLTE protocol on a cellphone that supports VoLTE protocol,
what would stop them using e.g. Rogers mobile internet network for voice calls? All Rogers would see, is another stream of IP data?
The use of VoLTE means that you're using a mobility service. Further, it
means that you have regular cellular airtime minutes that you can use. Using VoLTE does not count against your cellular data plan because using VoLTE basically helps
the mobility provider. But data isn't free. So why would Rogers, for example, give VoIP.ms' customers, for example, free data? And why would Rogers give priority QoS to VoIP.ms' communication packets for its voice service?
It's not locked to any specific mobile operator. Major mobility providers will be/are offering it (Telus, Rogers, Bell).Sorry, I'm not an expert, maybe what I wrote just above is silly, but I cannot comprehend what's so special in principle about VoLTE, that
makes is locked to a particular mobile operator.
Anyway, I'm done.
The VoIP provider would need to be paying someone for this. Those costs get passed on to whom? The customer. VoIP.ms certainly doesn't offer anything like that at this time, and it would cost them money to implement.
The argument that Tichi is making is that I, for example, could sign up to Rogers with just a cellular data plan. Then suddenly I should be able to use Roger's existing VoLTE network with a third party VoIP provider. I don't see that happening without tons of fighting with/from the CRTC, and I'm doubtful the CRTC wouldn't side with Rogers, Bell, and Telus.
But if someone develops something that's similar in terms of voice quality and bandwidth usage, then yeah, you can use that using cellular data. But it's still going to cost you cellular data usage.