nope stupid idea..
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Nov 23rd, 2008 01:45 PM #1
Would you lend money to a casual friend?
I have a friend who I see about 2-3 times a year for a chat, dinner and movie. We've known each other for about 10 years on a casual basis (that is, we don't actually know too many personal things about each other).
Would you lend this friend several thousands of dollars to start a new business? I've got some cash which is my emergency fund in these horrible economic times.
What would you say?
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Nov 23rd, 2008 01:46 PM #2
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Nov 23rd, 2008 01:49 PM #3
not in a million years.
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Nov 23rd, 2008 01:54 PM #6
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Nov 23rd, 2008 01:57 PM #7
Bad idea. Most new business ventures fail and loans regularly strain friendships. Chances are overwhelmingly that you will lose both your money and your friend. And if you don't even know the guy very closely, you have even less reason to go on such a risky venture. So no, don't lend money. He can get a line of credit for more than $1,000.
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Nov 23rd, 2008 02:15 PM #8Member


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Neither a borrower nor a lender be;
For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry.
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Nov 23rd, 2008 02:17 PM #9Member


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A loan, never.
An investment, maybe if you are willing to accept the fact that you may not see that money ever again (like any investment). You might invest if you think it is a good/great investment opportunity, but keep in mind that if it was that great your friend would a) be able to get the money from a bank, b) need much more then a couple thousand dollars.Last edited by nobody1234; Nov 23rd, 2008 at 02:49 PM.
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Nov 23rd, 2008 02:35 PM #10
No on several counts
1. its a good way to break up a friendship
2. unless you have iron clad guarantees -no again
3. is it why they have come to you, because they cant get it the normal way - again no
4. you said "I've got some cash which is my emergency fund in these horrible economic times", now once you let go of this cash, you have zero emergency fund - again NO
Or like that old saying " fools and their money shall surely part"
But let me be your conscience on this to something that you have not told us.
Would it be safe to assume that this friend has told you about this great idea business - one that can make a lot of money & one which will return you handsomely for the investment?
If thats the case - the answer is still no!
The idea is that anyone that asks another person for UNSECURED several thousands of dollars for a business venture is not all mad & there is no harm in asking several people the same question. If two or three people say yes - guess what ... the person asking has no risk, will probably lose the friendships which appears not to be so important too them.
But, if you are willing to take the risk to lose the money, then I say go for it
Now if I was the person asking for the money, I would probably get two, three maybe as many people as I could to loan me the unsecured money. I would then put the money into the bank and ask the banker for a loan against the security.
If your friend is not willing to put his/her neck on the line for the venture (mortgage the house, max on the credit cards, leverage all worldly possessions and the kids) then their idea or probable success is next to zero
Hope this helpsLast edited by NUTS; Nov 23rd, 2008 at 06:18 PM.
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Nov 23rd, 2008 05:39 PM #11
Thanks for the wise words ... I kinda knew this, but was getting a guilty feeling thinking about saying No. It's difficult saying no nicely and seeing the disappointment in the guy's face ... oh well, I guess if he's still my friend after I refuse, then I know he IS a friend.
The reason I have the emergency fund is in case I lose my job and because I can't sell my mutual funds at this time (being half the value they used to be). Yup, No is definitely the answer ...!
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Nov 23rd, 2008 08:27 PM #12
Just say you have debts you're dealing with.
And the fact that your 'friend' had the ballochs to just ask you for a $1000 or bring it up, shows his judgement.. meaning do not hand him a dollar!
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Nov 23rd, 2008 09:08 PM #13
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Nov 23rd, 2008 09:20 PM #14
I wouldn't loan a friend a dime. Just my principal and that's how I do things. Plus if they needed cash like the others have mentioned there are banks that offer loans and lines of credits if not than their credit card for a few thousand!
I hate it when people don't "return" your money too. They think it's ok to take months to pay you back etc. I had somebody take 2/3 months for $100. I mean $100 isn't much so why not just pay up. I know they can afford to pay up too.
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Nov 23rd, 2008 11:44 PM #15
I don't think I'd loan several thousand to close friends, because I don't want something to ruin our friendship. My friends all know this, and if they ever do need money (even small amounts), it's given as a gift, and not a loan. If they pay me back, it's a bonus. If they don't, that's fine since I was never expecting it back.
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