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Poll: Are Canadian cars overpriced

  • Total votes: 335. You have voted on this poll.
I have no voice, Canadian Dealers/Manufacturers are taking advantage of the Canadian consumer
 
112
33%
In most cases, new cars purchased in the US are almost always thousands cheaper
 
149
44%
I owe no one a living, competition is good. Thank you NAFTA!
 
61
18%
With the exchange rate factored in, Canadian prices are roughly the same
 
6
2%
With the exchange rate and financing, Canadian prices are cheaper - Buy Canadian!
 
7
2%

Poll ended at Dec 28th, 2006 1:46 pm

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Dan325ci wrote:
May 2nd, 2016 11:29 pm
Anyone have any experience in importing a BMW from the USA? Are there any broker services that help you handle the entire import procedure?

Thanks in advance.
Have a look at the fist post form M. Magot - lots of good info there. There should also be a link to tell if BMW Canada honours a US warranty, or if they arbitrarily try to block imports.

There was a broker who posted here frequently, but that was a couple of years back. Unsure if he's still around, however the process is something you can absolutely do yourself - if you have the time.

While the CAD has improved a lot lately, I think the most important question on imports (like your BMW and others) is around the 6.1% duty on non-NAFTA vehicles, such as European brands. Canada signed an agreement with the EU a few years ago (3 years now?) and a key item from it was the gradual abolishment of that duty.

Does anyone know if that duty has been killed yet?

The timing of that could save you thousands more.
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Dan325ci wrote:
May 2nd, 2016 11:29 pm
Anyone have any experience in importing a BMW from the USA? Are there any broker services that help you handle the entire import procedure?

Thanks in advance.
I did it back in 2012. Fairly easy if you use the resources here. Get all your paperwork in order so that you don't have any surprises. The X1-3-5 cars are all assembled in the US so you are only subject to the HST.
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JWL wrote:
Mar 4th, 2016 1:47 pm
(like me)

There was recently a successful class action lawsuit about vehicles having excessive oil consumption (we've had this in both our 2013 Outback and Legacy).

Here is the webpage about it: http://www.girardgibbs.com/subaru-oil-c ... n-lawsuit/

These are the affected vehicles:

Automatic / CVT Transmission:
2011-14 Forester (below VIN *529004)
2012-13 Impreza 4-Door (below VIN *033336)
2012-13 Impreza 5-Door Wagon (below VIN *886714)
2013 Crosstrek (below VIN *856139)
2013 Legacy (below VIN *048086)
2013 Outback (below VIN *321435)

Manual Transmission:
2011-15 Forester (below VIN *543650 )
2012-15 Impreza (below VIN *270253)
2013-15 Crosstrek (below VIN *270284)
2013-14 Legacy (all)
2013-14 Outback (all)

What Does the Settlement Provide?

Full details about the settlement will be provided in the class notice, which will be sent out by mail and also posted here once it is finalized. Among other things, the settlement provides:
  • Warranty extension – Repairs by an authorized Subaru retailer needed to correct excessive oil consumption will now fall within warranty for 8 years and 100,000 miles (whichever comes first).
  • Cash reimbursements – Payments will be made to those who paid for (1) costs associated with an oil consumption test, and (2) oil consumption repairs set out in Subaru’s service bulletins.
  • Reimbursement for Engine Oil – Payments will be made for those who presented their vehicle to an authorized Subaru retailer and complained of excessive oil consumption – limit of six quarts.
  • Reimbursement for Rental Vehicles and Towing – In certain circumstances, rental and towing costs may be reimbursed.
I'm working on finding out more. Apparently notices will be sent out in the next few weeks so make sure your contact info with Subaru of America is up to date. Call 1-800-SUBARU-3.

Will keep the thread posted as I learn more.

Not sure how or if Canadian purchased Subarus are affected (obviously made in the same factories so they'd have he same issue but at this point Subaru of Canada hasn't been sued so who knows what they'll do).

Thanks for this. I own a 2013 outback that may be affected. just wondering if you have an update or what I should be doing at this point?

thx
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WGretzky wrote:
May 10th, 2016 1:56 pm
Thanks for this. I own a 2013 outback that may be affected. just wondering if you have an update or what I should be doing at this point?

thx
Haven't heard anything yet. I guess it has been more than a few weeks.

Just keeping using the recommended 0W20 in your car to make sure you qualify for any remedy offered. I also keep a jug of oil in the trunk for top-ups.

Have you had the low oil light come on?
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JWL wrote:
May 10th, 2016 3:53 pm
Haven't heard anything yet. I guess it has been more than a few weeks.

Just keeping using the recommended 0W20 in your car to make sure you qualify for any remedy offered. I also keep a jug of oil in the trunk for top-ups.

Have you had the low oil light come on?
Haven't had the light cone on yet. We've driven about 43k since we got it in August 2013.

I've been going for the scheduled maintenance though regularily
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I have a 2008 Subaru Legacy and it has the same problem. Never thought it was a problem with other owners too. Thanks for let us know.
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Hey all,

Not sure if anyone is looking at this thread but I have a question: I purchased a car and imported a number of years ago 2008 FX35 great but now its getting old. I got access to Manhiem and noticed that on the dealer market prices are still fairly low compared to CAN. looking at 2015 C300 or equivalent BMW, Lexus or Audi. C300 4matic as an example is under $30k USD for up to 1 year old. Looking on KIJIJI or Auto trader I see them in the $40-$50 range. Worst its a few k cheaper at best I am thinking it will be about 10k cheaper. Reading some threads now it looks like things have changed Warranty is not always honored and Audi, BMW, MERC all require you to change the ODO to get a recall letter. That would add another $3k to the price. Has anyone recently purchased these models and thoughts or issues with getting the recall letter? Should I stick to a Lexus to minimize issues but I read on some posts in RFD that Toyota does not honor warranty either. Should I stick to buying in Ontario.
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jag0001 wrote:
Jun 21st, 2016 8:51 pm
Hey all,

Not sure if anyone is looking at this thread but I have a question: I purchased a car and imported a number of years ago 2008 FX35 great but now its getting old. I got access to Manhiem and noticed that on the dealer market prices are still fairly low compared to CAN. looking at 2015 C300 or equivalent BMW, Lexus or Audi. C300 4matic as an example is under $30k USD for up to 1 year old. Looking on KIJIJI or Auto trader I see them in the $40-$50 range. Worst its a few k cheaper at best I am thinking it will be about 10k cheaper. Reading some threads now it looks like things have changed Warranty is not always honored and Audi, BMW, MERC all require you to change the ODO to get a recall letter. That would add another $3k to the price. Has anyone recently purchased these models and thoughts or issues with getting the recall letter? Should I stick to a Lexus to minimize issues but I read on some posts in RFD that Toyota does not honor warranty either. Should I stick to buying in Ontario.
One benefit we should get soon, regardless of CAD : USD is the gradual phasing out of European duties as a result of a free trade agreement a couple of years back. This likely means $1-2K saved on the BMW, Merc, or Audi you are looking at.

The only problem is that I don't know exactly when that 6.1% duty will be gone.
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phlegm2 wrote:
Jun 22nd, 2016 9:04 pm
One benefit we should get soon, regardless of CAD : USD is the gradual phasing out of European duties as a result of a free trade agreement a couple of years back. This likely means $1-2K saved on the BMW, Merc, or Audi you are looking at.

The only problem is that I don't know exactly when that 6.1% duty will be gone.
That's true I was excited when I heard about the free trade agreement with Europe. Sucks it did not get implemented faster. Let's see what happens. I am just frustrated with all the changes that seem to have occurred in the last few years with importing. Last time I imported it was a breeze no issues, no complaints saved about 15k. Now I feel the dealers are just trying to screw every penny out of you.. man.
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jag0001 wrote:
Jun 21st, 2016 8:51 pm
Hey all,

Not sure if anyone is looking at this thread but I have a question: I purchased a car and imported a number of years ago 2008 FX35 great but now its getting old. I got access to Manhiem and noticed that on the dealer market prices are still fairly low compared to CAN. looking at 2015 C300 or equivalent BMW, Lexus or Audi. C300 4matic as an example is under $30k USD for up to 1 year old. Looking on KIJIJI or Auto trader I see them in the $40-$50 range. Worst its a few k cheaper at best I am thinking it will be about 10k cheaper. Reading some threads now it looks like things have changed Warranty is not always honored and Audi, BMW, MERC all require you to change the ODO to get a recall letter. That would add another $3k to the price. Has anyone recently purchased these models and thoughts or issues with getting the recall letter? Should I stick to a Lexus to minimize issues but I read on some posts in RFD that Toyota does not honor warranty either. Should I stick to buying in Ontario.
You probably aren't going to save much money to make it worth the hassle.

30K USD @ $1.30 = $39k CAD
Plus $2400 duty (6.1%) = $41,400

Then you still have to have it inspected remotely, have it shipped, go through all of the paperwork and RIV inspection hassles, get it safetied & drive clean, etc.

If a local dealer wants 45-48k I'd jump at it and just buy the car locally. It will probably end up costing you that to import the car from the US.
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Hello experts, I need to import a gifted car from my mother in law, from New york to Ontario. I am not able to find out how to get plates to import it to Canada.
We live here and she lives in NY and have not signed the title for ownership transfer yet. Can a canadian get NY DMV In-transit vehicle permit, which is valid for 30 days, to import the car to canada?
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I'm considering importing a US Nissan but does anyone have any recent experience with warranty on an imported used USA Nissan?

I called Nissan North America (Nissan USA) and the person I was speaking to said that the warranty was void if the vehicle was exported but he really didn't sound like he knew what he was talking about ... Calls to Nissan Canada refer to Nissan North America ...


General consensus seems to be that as long as it's registered at least 6 months in the USA, the warranty will be valid in Canada but the wording in the Warranty Manual is a bit unclear
APPLICABILITY
- This warranty is provided to the original and subsequent owner(s) of a Nissan vehicle originally distributed by Nissan which is originally sold by a Nissan authorized Nissan dealership in the United States, and which is registered in the U.S. and normally operated in the United States (including Alaska and Hawaii) and Canada.
- This warranty is generally transferable from the original ‘owner other than a Nissan dealer’ (OWNER) to subsequent owners of the vehicle at any time ownership of the vehicle is transferred, without any action on your part; except that this warranty is not transferable but is instead void if during the first six months after delivery to the original OWNER: (1) ownership of the vehicle is transferred from the original OWNER, and (2) the vehicle is registered outside of the United States.
The first part states that, for the warranty to be provided, the vehicle MUST be registered in the US but the second part states that if the vehicle is registered outside of the US after first being registered for 6 months in the US, the warranty isn't voided and is transferable, which would imply that it's still valid even if the vehicle is registered outside the US ...

Any recent, first-hand experience?
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Even with the bad exchange rate used cars are still thousands cheaper in the US than in Canada. Likely due to a bigger market and more supply. Not so sure about new cars
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Hey has anyone bought a used car from california. If i buy from calif., fly down and drive back to BC with temp licence, do i have to pay calif. sales tax? Or do i not pay calif sales tax since im from canada and transporting car and registering it in BC.

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