I use the http://www.harborfreight.com/propane-torch-91033.html to light my Weber charcoal kettle. It works well - 4 or 5 blasts of flame and the lump charcoal is is lit.Cyc66 wrote: ↑I bought this on Saturday and I can see why it's on liquidation. First, it's huge. It looks like a curling iron for giants. Secondly, you have to plug it in which can be a hastle if you're not near an outlet. Finally, after you use it you have to figure out where to put it while it cools down. I highly recommend everyone use a propane or MAAP/Pro torch instead. It gets the charcoal going in less than 30 seconds. http://www.homedepot.ca/product/bz8000k ... kit/968882
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- plymouthhater
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- Headbeancounter
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This looks like a great idea for lighting charcoal and is cheaper, but it does not have the portability or convenience of the MAAP/Pro torch. I don't think I want to hook this up to the propane tank every time I use my Kamado.plymouthhater wrote: ↑I use the http://www.harborfreight.com/propane-torch-91033.html to light my Weber charcoal kettle. It works well - 4 or 5 blasts of flame and the lump charcoal is is lit.
- SirBuford
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Sorry, but that's the goofiest thing I've ever heard. You cannot taste propane or natural gas on your food... if you could, tens of millions of gas BBQs and countless high-end restaurants would have some sort of issue with taste. Butane maybe, but propane and natural gas absolutely not, particularly of you're just lighting charcoal.StratMangler wrote: ↑Yikes. I'd never get something like that. Propane doesn't taste good.
Charcoal does. I don't mind waiting 10 min while my charcoal heats up with my U-shaped starter.
I've used propane (torch, Weber Performer ignition), a heat stripper, canola soaked paper towels in a chimney and the original looftlighter, and this now $20 looftlighter knock off is fantastic. Quick, convenient and set it down on its included stand even on a wood deck- completely safe. Only complaint is ash can get blown around a bit. Going to buy another one for back up.
- StratMangler
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Then you should have your taste buds checked.SirBuford wrote: ↑Sorry, but that's the goofiest thing I've ever heard. You cannot taste propane or natural gas on your food... if you could, tens of millions of gas BBQs and countless high-end restaurants would have some sort of issue with taste. Butane maybe, but propane and natural gas absolutely not, particularly of you're just lighting charcoal.
I've used propane (torch, Weber Performer ignition), a heat stripper, canola soaked paper towels in a chimney and the original looftlighter, and this now $20 looftlighter knock off is fantastic. Quick, convenient and set it down on its included stand even on a wood deck- completely safe. Only complaint is ash can get blown around a bit. Going to buy another one for back up.
I can (and everybody who is any fan of BBQ that I've ever known) most definitely taste the difference. Otherwise, nobody would ever go through the hassle of cooking through a charcoal-based BBQ because the same end result could be done with gas with far less hassle and waiting time.
- SirBuford
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Re-read the post.
There is an absence of taste when using gas. You cannot taste propane on your food as you're burning a simple molecule, with the byproducts being water vapour and CO2. The flavour profile of gas 'bbq' will only come from the meat, brine, sauce, rubs, etc, and not the fuel that gas been used to cook it with. This is why a gas smoker needs pellets or pucks for flavour.
Charcoal adds complex flavours due the organic matter which is being burned and subsequent chemical reaction.
There is an absence of taste when using gas. You cannot taste propane on your food as you're burning a simple molecule, with the byproducts being water vapour and CO2. The flavour profile of gas 'bbq' will only come from the meat, brine, sauce, rubs, etc, and not the fuel that gas been used to cook it with. This is why a gas smoker needs pellets or pucks for flavour.
Charcoal adds complex flavours due the organic matter which is being burned and subsequent chemical reaction.
- charlesd79
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Why pay $65 when you can pay $13, propane cylinder included ?Cyc66 wrote: ↑I highly recommend everyone use a propane or MAAP/Pro torch instead. It gets the charcoal going in less than 30 seconds. http://www.homedepot.ca/product/bz8000k ... kit/968882
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/maste ... 7542p.html
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I don't think that one has an igniter, but you're right, there are cheaper models.charlesd79 wrote: ↑Why pay $65 when you can pay $13, propane cylinder included ?
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/maste ... 7542p.html
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- Cyc66
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A lighter won't get the charcoal lit as easily as a torch.charlesd79 wrote: ↑dollarama also sells cheap lighters
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- liviu23
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Has anyone seen this in Costco's around Montreal?
Anyone has the sku?
Anyone has the sku?
- cko64
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Costco Calgary South is selling it for $19.97. Bought one. There are about 15 left. No other Costco in Calgary has them except the south store.
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- Mailliw
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You guys are arguing about two different things.StratMangler wrote: ↑Then you should have your taste buds checked.
I can (and everybody who is any fan of BBQ that I've ever known) most definitely taste the difference. Otherwise, nobody would ever go through the hassle of cooking through a charcoal-based BBQ because the same end result could be done with gas with far less hassle and waiting time.
Everyone with a taste bud can tell the difference between charcoal and gas BBQs, that is not being disputed. However, I'd wager a whole dollar that no one can taste the trace amounts of propane on their food after a blow torch is used to light a charcoal BBQ.
BBQ on.
- StratMangler
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Huh? Man, you guys don't know how to BBQ if that's how you light it. Yuck!Mailliw wrote: ↑You guys are arguing about two different things.
Everyone with a taste bud can tell the difference between charcoal and gas BBQs, that is not being disputed. However, I'd wager a whole dollar that no one can taste the trace amounts of propane on their food after a blow torch is used to light a charcoal BBQ.
BBQ on.
Obviously, you'll taste some of that nastyness in your food. Why would anybody do that?
Pour some charcoal and use an electric starter. Wait 10-15 min and your BBQ is as hot as you want it to be. The end. Using any other methods with propane, lighter fluid, or anything else is jeopardizing the flavor.
As far as I'm concerned, it's charcoal or bust.
- vinaymal
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Mapp is hotter than propane thus will get the lighting job done faster.charlesd79 wrote: ↑Why pay $65 when you can pay $13, propane cylinder included ?
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/maste ... 7542p.html
- uklamen
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I started using a chimney with a bit of packing paper in the bottom. Lights up quick and nice. Not sure why you would need something like this... especially difficult if camping. But I only use the charcoal side of the bbq for smoking so I'm no expert on tasting residue.
- retr0
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Agree 100% How much easier could a chimney be? And it let's you control your lighting method (by varying the amount of coal your lighting). Very important for different types of cooks.
- SirBuford
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I'll make sure to tell the four different guys who used MAPP propane torches to light their smokers and won up to $15k in judged competitions that they're doing it wrong next time they're coming off the podium.StratMangler wrote: ↑Huh? Man, you guys don't know how to BBQ if that's how you light it. Yuck!
Obviously, you'll taste some of that nastyness in your food. Why would anybody do that?
Pour some charcoal and use an electric starter. Wait 10-15 min and your BBQ is as hot as you want it to be. The end. Using any other methods with propane, lighter fluid, or anything else is jeopardizing the flavor.
As far as I'm concerned, it's charcoal or bust.
All this time only coming as high as 8th in brisket, ribs or pork... thank goodness someone knows their bbq!
Next time you're in an authentic bbq joint (no, Montana's doesn't count), ask to see their kitchen and check out the smokers. 10:1 it's gas-fired and uses pellets, pucks or wood for flavour as opposed to heat.
- SirBuford
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I've used the looftlighter on a few different Kamados and kettles for grilling. Pretty convenient at getting a quick grill fire going, not as much control for a smoker. Can't really go wrong for $20 if you have an electrical outlet near your grill/smoker.
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I just picked one up at the Barrie Costco. 19.97. They had lots.