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100 year old home with stair problem

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Sep 23, 2021
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100 year old home with stair problem

I have an upstairs bedroom door that opens right over the staircase. Very dangerous and awkward to get in room.. The door can't be moved to the right or left due to steep pitch of roof.
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Dec 26, 2012
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Hamilton
you're going to have to talk to a renovation specialist. it probably needs a full redesign with drawings, permits, etc.
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Jun 26, 2019
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GTA
Yep, these are 100 year old housing problems.

I think the obvious solution to aim for, would be to try and put a landing on the right side of the door now, and then turn the stairs 90 degrees so they are coming up where the plant is. You lose space there, headroom below, and need a fair bit of structural work probably.

Id probably retain a structural eng to start, and they can give you an idea of what the options are and a ballpark of what you're looking at cost wise.
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Sep 5, 2011
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Omg. I have never seen that in real life before. That is just crazy dangerous.

I assume you are talking about the door in the middle of the picture and not the smaller one on the right?

The only fix I could come up with is to move the entire door to the left and seal up the old doorway.
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Nov 17, 2012
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What is the floor plan for that level?

I'd pull the wall out completely and make it one open space. It's also not clear at all why the door wasn't positioned to the left in the first place, but if that's the only place for that door on that wall, then the wall doesn't belong there at all. Rip it out.
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That's a crazy setup. Would be interesting to know the order in which they were setup. Was the door there first and the stairs put in after because there was no other location for it? I doubt the door was added after.
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Oct 25, 2017
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Incredible, there was one like this that made it to meme level fame. Personally I’d just take the wall down and make it all one room.
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Probably was an attic at one time.....
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Why can't the door be moved to the left?
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Is this for real.. I have seen these in those "job/contractor fail" videos on Facebook. Never thought someone actually has one in Canada no less.
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Jun 8, 2004
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I would open it back up and remove the wall and door and put a proper railing back in on that side, then you can access that space properly from the top of the stairs where the pitch of the roof won't allow a full height door.

I suspect this was how it was originally built before someone took out the railing and built the wall. Stairs came up in the middle of an open room, so other side of stairs looks like this side of stairs where the picture was taken.
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Oct 19, 2008
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IcarusLSC wrote: Why can't the door be moved to the left?
From what we see of roofline in the pic that does look possible.
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IcarusLSC wrote: Why can't the door be moved to the left?
OP should upload photos of the left of the door (both inside and outside of the room) so show us why it's "too steep". Definitely looks doable.
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A suggestion of the absolute cheapest, non-code compliant, still-dangerous way to make things a bit easier is to build a very small set of stairs that lead up from the current stairs to the door. It will have to block, say, half of the width of the existing stairs underneath the door, but make it easier to get in/out and slightly safer. Think of stairs going perpendicular from the middle of the current stairs.

Or perhaps a small platform one step down instead of a small set of stairs (which would be very steep). Call it a mini-landing.
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OK, is this what it looks like inside?
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Get rid of the stairs, extend the top landing in front of the door. For access to the floor, install an elevator.
Or match the age of the house and put in a ladder.
Or rotate the door 90 degrees to the left so that it's perpendicular to the stairs. It would mean eating up a small section of the bedroom, but could be low cost but effective solution (don't need to deal with stairs, just relocating those walls).
Or take down the wall and door and make it open concept.

Not really sure what the ask of the post was.
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How about a spiral staircase?

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As soon as you 'touch' the stairs you need to bring the entire case and railings up to code.
Door looks like it leads to a storage area.
Personally, I would leave it.
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This is another one-post wonder. Likely an RFD staff post to generate more posts in a useless thread.
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torontotim wrote: This is another one-post wonder. Likely an RFD staff post to generate more posts in a useless thread.
A screenshot of their photos album does seem suspect.

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