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11 year old computer and new 27" UHD monitor. Video card suggestions?

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11 year old computer and new 27" UHD monitor. Video card suggestions?

I have a 11 year old computer:
-Windows 10
-Intel Core Quad processor Q8200
-8GB ddr3
-ATI Radeon HD 4350 512MB

I have a new 27" UHD monitor
-Supports HDMI
-2560 x 1440 resolution
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Problem:
-I plug HDMI from my 11 year old computer to HDMI 27" monitor. It works. But, text, images, video, picture quality is just average. Kind of blurry as if i'm using an ancient monitor. Not sharp.

-If I use my laptop (1 year old) from HDMI to HDMI 27" monitor...text images video and picture quality is amazing. Very sharp. This proves that my new monitor isn't the problem.
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My guess is I need to replace the video card on this old computer.

Will this improve image, text, video quality?
https://www.canadacomputers.com/product ... _id=092978 (2GB video card)
https://www.canadacomputers.com/product ... _id=114124 (1GB video card)
Any other suggestions on video card?

I'm not a video gamer. I just use the computer on a daily basis (check emails, browse rfd, watch youtube)

Thanks in advance
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Resolution of the 4350 appears to be limited to 1920 x 1200. An nvidia 1030 works for 4K though I understand they've been pulled off the market the past year or two (got mine less than 2 years ago for a 12 y.o. Athlon II-powered HTPC). You want something that supports 3840 x ~2160. 710 doesn't do it. 750 does.
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Your card supports HDMI 1.2, you need something with minimum HDMI 1.4 for 1440p @60Hz. The current HDMI version is 2.1.

Keep in mind there may be driver limits as well, even if the hardware is capable.

Better yet get a card with displayport.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone.
thriftshopper wrote: Resolution of the 4350 appears to be limited to 1920 x 1200. An nvidia 1030 works for 4K though I understand they've been pulled off the market the past year or two (got mine less than 2 years ago for a 12 y.o. Athlon II-powered HTPC). You want something that supports 3840 x ~2160. 710 doesn't do it. 750 does.
I will do some research on 750.
M1K3Z0R wrote: Your card supports HDMI 1.2, you need something with minimum HDMI 1.4 for 1440p @60Hz. The current HDMI version is 2.1.

Keep in mind there may be driver limits as well, even if the hardware is capable.

Better yet get a card with displayport.
Thanks for letting me know about the different HDMI versions.
Amourek wrote: Can you connect via DVI instead of HDMI? Some HD 4350 cards list 2560x1600 as the maximum resolution via DVI.
mY HD 4350 video card has a DVI output port. However, this latest technology 27" monitor accept HDMI and other interesting ports. I don't have a wire that goes from DVI to HDMI. :(

Initially, I bought a wire adapter that goes from VGA to HDMI. It works but the image quality is the same (blurry). Basically wasted $20.

I am thinking about replacing the video card. But at the same time I don't want to spend $100 and nothing gets fixed. :)
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It seems like this video card might work. Video card seem to support the resolution but at 30hz. Not sure what is the difference between 60hz vs 30hz. Is there any noticeable difference in terms of sharpness on the screen? Sorry, I haven't been up to date with computer hardware technology.

ASUS GeForce GT 1030 LP 2GB (GT1030-2G-CSM) - 1228 MHz Base/1506 MHz Boost, 3004 MHz Memory - PCI-E 3.0, 1x DVI-D, 1x HDMI
https://www.canadacomputers.com/product ... _id=108604

GT 1030 output specifications: DVI max resolution: 1920x1080 @ 60hz as the gt 1030 dvi outputs are limited to single link dvi. HDMI max resolution: 3840x2160 @ 30hz which is the max hdmi 1.4 will allow unless you run 4:2:0 subsampling to get 60 hz @ 4k.
Reference: https://forums.evga.com/
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canada85000 wrote: Initially, I bought a wire adapter that goes from VGA to HDMI. It works but the image quality is the same (blurry). Basically wasted $20.
You omitted this factoid in the first post. VGA is very low res (at least for the past decade or longer).
canada85000 wrote: It seems like this video card might work. Video card seem to support the resolution but at 30hz. Not sure what is the difference between 60hz vs 30hz. Is there any noticeable difference in terms of sharpness on the screen? Sorry, I haven't been up to date with computer hardware technology.
Won't make much of a difference for text. It's more for movement (e.g., video, games).
ASUS GeForce GT 1030 LP 2GB (GT1030-2G-CSM) - 1228 MHz Base/1506 MHz Boost, 3004 MHz Memory - PCI-E 3.0, 1x DVI-D, 1x HDMI
https://www.canadacomputers.com/product ... _id=108604

GT 1030 output specifications: DVI max resolution: 1920x1080 @ 60hz as the gt 1030 dvi outputs are limited to single link dvi. HDMI max resolution: 3840x2160 @ 30hz which is the max hdmi 1.4 will allow unless you run 4:2:0 subsampling to get 60 hz @ 4k.
Reference: https://forums.evga.com/
Have a Zotac which supports HDMI 2.0.
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eldiablo wrote: Possible issues:

1. driver issues;
2. overheating due to poor cooling due to dust buildup;
3. overheating due to old thermal paste and reduced thermal transfer to the heatsink.
Good point. It seems like there is alot of unknown and i could potentially waste money. Now I'm hesitant to proceed further
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thriftshopper wrote: You omitted this factoid in the first post. VGA is very low res (at least for the past decade or longer).

Won't make much of a difference for text. It's more for movement (e.g., video, games).

Have a Zotac which supports HDMI 2.0.
Sorry I didn't include the vga port information because I learned from my mistake after buying a vga to hdmi adaptor and solved nothing.

I guess I'll continue and use my new monitor for work+laptop and continue using my 11 year old personal PC+old 20 inch monitor. I'm lucky to even install windows 10 on this old pc. Ill save up and buy a new dell XPS desktop next year.
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canada85000 wrote: Good point. It seems like there is alot of unknown and i could potentially waste money. Now I'm hesitant to proceed further
My answer is incorrect as it is all related to the HDMI standard. You either stick with the original setup and stay with 20" monitor or upgrade the GPU and possibly the PSU?
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canada85000 wrote: I guess I'll continue and use my new monitor for work+laptop and continue using my 11 year old personal PC+old 20 inch monitor. I'm lucky to even install windows 10 on this old pc. Ill save up and buy a new dell XPS desktop next year.
I have a couple of 12-13 y.o. 4 GB Core 2 Duos and the Aug. '08 (by a build sticker) 4-core Athlon II (changed from 3-core Xenon to reduce heat generation) all running Win 10 20H2. As long as it has enough memory, and a fast drive, these old computers have a lot of life in them. Maybe look for a used card not likely to have been used for mining or to be overclocked.
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Get a GTX 1000 series card. Better video decoding than older series cards. VP9 decoding alone for youtube is worth it. h264ify has it's limits. You should be able to find a used 1050/1050 ti around the $80- 150 range for sure. 1030s are less common on the used markets.

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