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2% Price increase for renewals in Ontario starting July 1 2019?

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2% Price increase for renewals in Ontario starting July 1 2019?

2% Price increase for renewals in Ontario starting July 1 2019?
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kocoman wrote: 2% Price increase for renewals in Ontario starting July 1 2019?
Renewals of what?
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2% increase to pay for Ford's pathetic license plate re-design.
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Yup, what's new.
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The the Bubba Dougherty’s Ford Gong Show rolls on....

In a proposal quietly posted to a regulatory registry for public comment, the government says it is seeking to introduce annual fee increases of two per cent "across the board" for "various driver, vehicle and carrier products and services."

The fee increases would start July 1 and continue for five years, under the proposal.

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"People are fed up with paying more and more every time they need to renew their licence or take a driving test," Premier Doug Ford said in a statement at the time.


Can you hear that? That’s the sound of another flip-flop as he lets the people down again after realizing that his initial promise was made without any due diligence, without any sort of real plan or agenda, and without actually knowing what they’re doing....
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CanadianLurker wrote: The the Bubba Dougherty’s Ford Gong Show rolls on....

In a proposal quietly posted to a regulatory registry for public comment, the government says it is seeking to introduce annual fee increases of two per cent "across the board" for "various driver, vehicle and carrier products and services."

The fee increases would start July 1 and continue for five years, under the proposal.

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"People are fed up with paying more and more every time they need to renew their licence or take a driving test," Premier Doug Ford said in a statement at the time.


Can you hear that? That’s the sound of another flip-flop as he lets the people down again after realizing that his initial promise was made without any due diligence, without any sort of real plan or agenda, and without actually knowing what they’re doing....
To be fair, indexing to inflation is more than fine. I was surprised that renewals for 1 and 2 years cost exactly such that the 2 year renewal is exactly twice as much as for 1 year. That seems odd to me. Plate renewal costs have also not changed in several years.

We run a deficit still and I'm sure if it were up to Ford he would cut more and more (I wholeheartedly support mass spending cuts FWIW). So if he is using this 2% to pay for things that the Left keep on begging him to do, then so be it.

You can't have your cake and eat it too, and that seems to be what people, all up, want.
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angryaudifanatic wrote: To be fair, indexing to inflation is more than fine. I was surprised that renewals for 1 and 2 years cost exactly such that the 2 year renewal is exactly twice as much as for 1 year. That seems odd to me. Plate renewal costs have also not changed in several years.

We run a deficit still and I'm sure if it were up to Ford he would cut more and more (I wholeheartedly support mass spending cuts FWIW). So if he is using this 2% to pay for things that the Left keep on begging him to do, then so be it.

You can't have your cake and eat it too, and that seems to be what people, all up, want.
I hear ya! There’s no easy answers in things like this.

My beef with Bubba is that he doesn’t really have a plan, doesn’t really know what he’s doing, and he’s flip flopping all over the place when the realities or implications finally settle in.

Spend a ton more or cut things to the bone. I don’t really care either way as long as you have a plan that shows you’ve thought things through, that you have data or research to back up your position, and you or the cast of characters around you know what they’re doing.

Bubba? Not so much. He seems to just spew out populist lines as he panders to the audience in the heat of the moment.
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angryaudifanatic wrote: To be fair, indexing to inflation is more than fine. I was surprised that renewals for 1 and 2 years cost exactly such that the 2 year renewal is exactly twice as much as for 1 year. That seems odd to me. Plate renewal costs have also not changed in several years.

We run a deficit still and I'm sure if it were up to Ford he would cut more and more (I wholeheartedly support mass spending cuts FWIW). So if he is using this 2% to pay for things that the Left keep on begging him to do, then so be it.

You can't have your cake and eat it too, and that seems to be what people, all up, want.
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What is lost in the anti Ford rhetoric is that he cancelled a 7% increase and will now, maybe, increase by 2%. Far less than the previous increase.
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I don't mind paying for this. As long as the money goes into improving infrastructure and crappy roads. Someone has to pay for it.
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canoek wrote: I don't mind paying for this. As long as the money goes into improving infrastructure and crappy roads. Someone has to pay for it.
Infrastructure and roads are funded by property taxes.
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Partly funded by property taxes, partly from development charges, partly from the province, partly from the feds

eg kingston is building a new bridge, $30m from municipal taxes, $30m from development charges,$60m from the province, $60m from the feds.

a 2% increase in fees is...keeping them the same as last year
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zoro69 wrote: Partly funded by property taxes, partly from development charges, partly from the province, partly from the feds

eg kingston is building a new bridge, $30m from municipal taxes, $30m from development charges,$60m from the province, $60m from the feds.

a 2% increase in fees is...keeping them the same as last year
Not sure what the breakdown for the City of Ottawa is, but the city allocated $447M last year for infrastructure.
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vkizzle wrote: Infrastructure and roads are funded by property taxes.
The property taxes have gone up a lot in the last 10 years. Not in %age, but due to higher valuations of houses. And I believe there's a limit on yearly increases, so they keep increasing every year. Too bad the roads haven't seen any of that windfall.
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canoek wrote: The property taxes have gone up a lot in the last 10 years. Not in %age, but due to higher valuations of houses. And I believe there's a limit on yearly increases, so they keep increasing every year. Too bad the roads haven't seen any of that windfall.
Yup, a 2% increase is a drop in the bucket.
He did good killing the stupid e-test, as that was more of an inconvenience than anything else.
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Pete_Coach wrote: +1
What is lost in the anti Ford rhetoric is that he cancelled a 7% increase and will now, maybe, increase by 2%. Far less than the previous increase.
Well, at 2% yearly for 5 yrs as proposed it will amount to a 10% cumulative increase in the end.

Pick your poison. Several % jumps every now and then or small % steps compounded annually over time.

Same sh!t, different smell.
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um, property taxes do not go up in relation to house prices. They do if one house increases more then others in the same municipality (which would mean others save), but no effect overall
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zoro69 wrote: um, property taxes do not go up in relation to house prices. They do if one house increases more then others in the same municipality (which would mean others save), but no effect overall
This. They adjust the mill rate to ensure that they collect the required taxes regardless of whether property values rise or fall.
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vkizzle wrote: Yup, a 2% increase is a drop in the bucket.
He did good killing the stupid e-test, as that was more of an inconvenience than anything else.
I agree,
I don't mind paying the 2% extra.

The Province has tons of debt to pay, money gotta comes from somewhere and the 2% increase is more reasonable.

My Car and home insurance increased more than that.
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