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2016 Honda Pilot Touring versus 2017 Honda Pilot EX-L RES

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2016 Honda Pilot Touring versus 2017 Honda Pilot EX-L RES

Hi,

My wife and I are still undecided whether to buy a Pilot or an Odyssey but since it's a broad topic I will stick with the Pilot for this thread and post a different one for the Odyssey. We like both but since we will be parking the vehicle on the side street for most of the day, I'm a little bit concerned about the Odyssey not having an AWD option during the winter season.

Anyhow, my question is about the 2016 Pilot Touring and the 2017 Honda Pilot EX-L RES. I did check the specs of both but I would like to ask you opinion for those who had a chance to drive either one. Which one would you choose? Would you choose a Pilot with more features but a year older or would you buy a brand new one but in a lower trim?

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Top of the line versus the bottom trim...hmm?
Pretty easy to come to a conclusion on which is the better choice.
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I'd be very weary of the MY2016. Why is it available as a used car so soon?

I had a MY2016 EX-L and it was nothing but trouble. It started at 10,000 kms with a transmission replacement and things just kept going wrong. When the dealer offered to upgrade me to a MY2017, I jumped at the chance to get rid of that lemon. So far I haven't had any problems with the MY2017 EX-L Navi. The '16 Touring with the 9-speed transmission is known to be plagued with problems.
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Don't get a Pilot. They have problems and significant design flaws. No volume knob, radio reception problems, transmission problems, skinny hard armrests, and poor ground clearance for a crossover. Despite a good 0-60 time, they feel a little less responsive than other cars in the class.

Odyssey is nice but I would get a 2018 Sienna instead, you get the AWD plus amazing reliability and all the new safety tech standard, plus twice the room of a pilot, better comfort, smoother powertrain. The top trim with brown leather is really luxurious, other than the fake wood trim. Sienna is bigger inside than the new Odyssey. 6ft people can sleep in the back with the seats pushed forward. I've looked at both, Odyssey is snazzier but honestly not the rational choice for Canadians. Which is why Toyota sells like 2-3x as many Siennas as Odys in Canada.

I'm waiting for the 2020 Sienna redesign but if I was buying in September (when they are being released), it would be 2018 Sienna Limited AWD.

CarandDriver just ranked the Pilot last in a comparison test. It even lost to the million year old Durango.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons ... rison-test
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skeet50 wrote:
Jul 15th, 2017 3:11 pm
I'd be very weary of the MY2016. Why is it available as a used car so soon?

I had a MY2016 EX-L and it was nothing but trouble. It started at 10,000 kms with a transmission replacement and things just kept going wrong. When the dealer offered to upgrade me to a MY2017, I jumped at the chance to get rid of that lemon. So far I haven't had any problems with the MY2017 EX-L Navi. The '16 Touring with the 9-speed transmission is known to be plagued with problems.
Dealer offered you an "upgrade", that's a good one? Lol
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vkizzle wrote:
Jul 15th, 2017 10:29 am
Top of the line versus the bottom trim...hmm?
Pretty easy to come to a conclusion on which is the better choice.
EX-L is not the bottom trim. It's the EX.
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I'll go for the EX-L one instead. It's what I have. Has the six speed so better than the 9. It's going to be my rough vehicle so I don't need the extra stuff in the touring.

I don't really have any of the issues that plagued the 2016 and some 2017 models. I might not be a picky person so that may play into it. It's quite a comfortable ride and quite fast too.
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jigsatics wrote:
Jul 15th, 2017 5:06 pm
EX-L is not the bottom trim. It's the EX.
Actually, the LX is the base model; but you know what I meant.
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bomber17 wrote:
Jul 15th, 2017 5:17 pm
I'll go for the EX-L one instead. It's what I have. Has the six speed so better than the 9. It's going to be my rough vehicle so I don't need the extra stuff in the touring.

I don't really have any of the issues that plagued the 2016 and some 2017 models. I might not be a picky person so that may play into it. It's quite a comfortable ride and quite fast too.
I don't understand how a transmission failure at 6 mths in a new car is an indication of being picky. I couldn't care less about stupid things like a volume button or armrest, but major parts failing early can hardly be described as picky.
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vkizzle wrote:
Jul 15th, 2017 3:55 pm
Dealer offered you an "upgrade", that's a good one? Lol
That's what you took away from my post? Really?
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skeet50 wrote:
Jul 16th, 2017 8:41 am
That's what you took away from my post? Really?
I'm sure you took a big loss also.
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vkizzle wrote:
Jul 16th, 2017 8:21 pm
I'm sure you took a big loss also.
No, I didn't. It's one of the advantages of leasing.
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skeet50 wrote:
Jul 17th, 2017 8:54 am
No, I didn't. It's one of the advantages of leasing.
They allowed you to return your lease early?
That's amazing!
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I would suggest the EX-L RES if you do not need the extra bells and whistles.
The Touring can only sit 7 people, and that was one of the biggest flaw for me personally.
I heard about the horrible transmission on the touring, so I stuck to the safe/reliable 6 speed trans.
And honestly the Bluray vs DVD player was a small factor since we could simply make copies of movies on DVDs whenever needed.
Hope this helps.
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sunstar1980 wrote:
Jul 17th, 2017 9:09 am
I would suggest the EX-L RES if you do not need the extra bells and whistles.
The Touring can only sit 7 people, and that was one of the biggest flaw for me personally.
I heard about the horrible transmission on the touring, so I stuck to the safe/reliable 6 speed trans.
And honestly the Bluray vs DVD player was a small factor since we could simply make copies of movies on DVDs whenever needed.
Hope this helps.
What's the OTR price you end up getting from purchasing the 2017 Honda Pilot EX-L RES?
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