2017 Nissan Sentra SR Turbo - Civic 1.5T Alternative?

Sep 13th, 2016 11:59 am

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rsang39 [OP]: Deal Addict; Feb 24, 2014; 1188 posts; 528 upvotes

Sep 13th, 2016 11:59 am

2017 Nissan Sentra SR Turbo - Civic 1.5T Alternative?

Nissan is finally bringing out a respectable Sentra with the new 2017 SR Turbo. Will be powered by the Jukes 188hp & 177lb/ft tq engine, and will be offered with a 6 speed manual in addition to the CVT. Other key upgrades include
- Larger brakes
- Stiffer springs with an increased spring rate
- Increased dampening rate

Thoughts? The C-Segment market has always been interesting and I couldn't quite understand why Nissan would offer such an underpowered engine along with it's "unique" styling. The Sentra has trailed pretty much every other C-Segment car in sales (Civic, Corolla, Elantra, Cruze, etc) so it will be interesting to see if an increase output option would sway buyers away. I doubt it'll be as fast as the new Civic 1.5T but kudos to Nissan for taking a step in the right direction and offering a competitive powerplant.

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http://jalopnik.com/the-2017-sentra-sr- ... 1786496088

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Sep 13th, 2016 12:29 pm

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sandikosh: Deal Expert; Jan 7, 2007; 20934 posts; 5352 upvotes; Poormond Hill

Sep 13th, 2016 12:29 pm

Very attractive car. But I would black out the chrome on the front grill to give it a more aggressive look.

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Sep 13th, 2016 12:44 pm

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Ken_vs_Ryu: Deal Addict; Dec 24, 2009; 1034 posts; 741 upvotes

Sep 13th, 2016 12:44 pm

That still seems super slow. Celicas and preludes of 15 years ago made more even naturally aspirated. Nowadays 4 cyl turbos are in the 300 HP range for most manufacturers

Sep 13th, 2016 12:51 pm

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geokilla: Deal Expert; Mar 1, 2008; 16338 posts; 5695 upvotes; Toronto, Ontario

Sep 13th, 2016 12:51 pm

While it looks good, does it drive good? A lot of reviews have said the base Sentra drives awful and inside is cheaper than dirt.

Ken_vs_Ryu wrote: ↑ That still seems super slow. Celicas and preludes of 15 years ago made more even naturally aspirated. Nowadays 4 cyl turbos are in the 300 HP range for most manufacturers

It's meant to go up against the Civic EX-T, Mazda 3 GT, Volkswagen Jetta 1.8T or GLI, and the likes. It's not an all out hot hatchback or anything close to it.

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Sep 13th, 2016 12:52 pm

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Clayden: Deal Addict; Nov 9, 2011; 1067 posts; 435 upvotes; Toronto, ON

Sep 13th, 2016 12:52 pm

I applaud Nissan for offering new powerplants, ignore the people crying "My SR20xx made 200hp in 2001"..this isn't meant to be an equivalent performance model.

This is an SR model, not an SER, not a Spec-V.

That being said, the Sentra is still an awful vehicle when compared to its competition. It's outdated interior and quality leave a lot of room for improvement.

Sep 13th, 2016 12:52 pm

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iamskyhigh: Deal Fanatic; Nov 25, 2010; 5361 posts; 1902 upvotes; Abbottabad

Sep 13th, 2016 12:52 pm

Great, more ricers.

Manufacturers need to dump these 'Type R' models.

They promote aggressive driving and testicle showing off contests.

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Sep 13th, 2016 1:10 pm

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er34er34: Deal Fanatic; May 4, 2014; 5083 posts; 6663 upvotes; Toronto, ON

Sep 13th, 2016 1:10 pm

Really? People find that attractive?

This is what I see in my rearview mirror:

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Sep 13th, 2016 1:38 pm

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rsang39 [OP]: Deal Addict; Feb 24, 2014; 1188 posts; 528 upvotes

Sep 13th, 2016 1:38 pm

Clayden wrote: ↑ I applaud Nissan for offering new powerplants, ignore the people crying "My SR20xx made 200hp in 2001"..this isn't meant to be an equivalent performance model.

This is an SR model, not an SER, not a Spec-V.

That being said, the Sentra is still an awful vehicle when compared to its competition. It's outdated interior and quality leave a lot of room for improvement.

Yeah the interior isn't anywhere near the top of the class. The screen is small and the fit and finish in some areas is lagging. A good example are the door panels which feel a lot cheaper than the other offerings. But that said, I think its a very good start for the company to try to bring in potential buyers of the Civic 1.5T or Mazda 3 GT who want a sportier car.

Sep 13th, 2016 1:44 pm

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chdude3: Deal Addict; Jul 3, 2002; 4859 posts; 182 upvotes; GTA

Sep 13th, 2016 1:44 pm

Clayden wrote: ↑ I applaud Nissan for offering new powerplants, ignore the people crying "My SR20xx made 200hp in 2001"..this isn't meant to be an equivalent performance model.

This is an SR model, not an SER, not a Spec-V.

That being said, the Sentra is still an awful vehicle when compared to its competition. It's outdated interior and quality leave a lot of room for improvement.

My experience owning a Sentra Spec-V put Nissan on my permanently banned company list.

Unfortunately I didn't have much of an option on a recent vacation rental car. Ended up with a Sentra, and wow - it's horrible. Beefing up the power plant would certainly help its anemic power - the car we had was absolutely atrocious for acceleration - but wouldn't save its interior and user interface. I honestly don't understand how anyone could test drive a Sentra and be happy with it given that there are a number of viable alternatives.

Rock it.

Sep 13th, 2016 2:41 pm

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Spectre26: Member; May 5, 2016; 426 posts; 220 upvotes; Toronto

Sep 13th, 2016 2:41 pm

Lipstick on a pig.

The sad thing is, the improvements just makes the car class competitive in the acceleration, handling and the braking department. Highly doubt it will pull away Civic and Mazda 3 buyers from its torsion beam suspension, it's heaviest in its class, substandard seats, terrible infotainment screen, interior materials, etc. Oh and now you will have to use premium gas for this turbo drivetrain.

Sep 13th, 2016 5:55 pm

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ShadowVlican: Deal Expert; Jun 12, 2003; 15048 posts; 1362 upvotes; Markham

Sep 13th, 2016 5:55 pm

iamskyhigh wrote: ↑ Great, more ricers.

Manufacturers need to dump these 'Type R' models.

They promote aggressive driving and testicle showing off contests.

This isn't a "type r" model... Did you think that just because of the tarbo?

ShadowVlican

Sep 13th, 2016 6:11 pm

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ZhengC: Newbie; Sep 12, 2016; 1 posts

Sep 13th, 2016 6:11 pm

It's nice that they're giving the choice for a 6MT I guess, but the car still looks like they squished the front and rear end toward the middle.

It's not too exciting but I think it's still a step in the right direction for Nissan.

Sep 13th, 2016 6:24 pm

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sandikosh: Deal Expert; Jan 7, 2007; 20934 posts; 5352 upvotes; Poormond Hill

Sep 13th, 2016 6:24 pm

Ken_vs_Ryu wrote: ↑ That still seems super slow. Celicas and preludes of 15 years ago made more even naturally aspirated. Nowadays 4 cyl turbos are in the 300 HP range for most manufacturers

Yes they had more power. But you had to rev the hell out of it to get going. This Sentra engine makes 177 lbs torque at a mere 1600 rpm as opposed to 5500-6000 rpms in those engines 15 years ago. Just a touch on the gas pedal gets the car moving effortlessly.

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Sep 13th, 2016 6:39 pm

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Fjr2005: Banned; Mar 11, 2016; 2081 posts; 887 upvotes

Sep 13th, 2016 6:39 pm

great a 25-30k Sentra...just what we need

Sep 13th, 2016 6:48 pm

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vkizzle: Deal Expert; Aug 22, 2011; 37032 posts; 22994 upvotes; Center of Universe

Sep 13th, 2016 6:48 pm

Ken_vs_Ryu wrote: ↑ That still seems super slow. Celicas and preludes of 15 years ago made more even naturally aspirated. Nowadays 4 cyl turbos are in the 300 HP range for most manufacturers

Nothing a good tune and direct bolt-ons can't fix.

Sep 13th, 2016 7:03 pm

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rsang39 [OP]: Deal Addict; Feb 24, 2014; 1188 posts; 528 upvotes

Sep 13th, 2016 7:03 pm

vkizzle wrote:
Ken_vs_Ryu wrote: ↑ That still seems super slow. Celicas and preludes of 15 years ago made more even naturally aspirated. Nowadays 4 cyl turbos are in the 300 HP range for most manufacturers
Nothing a good tune and direct bolt-ons can't fix.

The tuning market should be good for the new Sentra although I don't know how much you'd need to shell out to make it quick.

Sep 13th, 2016 7:12 pm

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george__: Deal Expert; Jul 22, 2006; 22208 posts; 2873 upvotes

Sep 13th, 2016 7:12 pm

Sentra is awful right now.

Bring back the B15 style without the butterfly valve problem engines PLEASE