2019 Amazon Fire TV Stick. What is it?

EugW wrote: ↑ Hmmm... Fire Stick 4K for $39? That's a great deal! How often does that happen? Perhaps I'll wait for the next sale.

EDIT:

I see numerous sales at RFD mentioning the Fire Stick 4K for $55.

amazon-ca-fire-tv-stick-4k-54-99-non-4k ... 9-2285376/

However, I didn't come across a sale on it for $40.

Still, $55 is a very good price, so maybe I'll wait for the next $55 sale on the 4K model.

vodka wrote: ↑ I have a 1st gen fire stick and i agree, slow as $hit, really crap experience using it. Not to mention, the older devices (I also have a 1st gen FireTV - box) can't get some of the newer apps because they are deemed incompatible by Amazon, yet the apps work ok. i.e. If I use a FireTV4k stick, get the app, sideload it on the older FireTV/Stick, it works. Clearly, none will work in 4K though. Basically same thing apple does with their phones/tablets, even though HW is still fine to use, app store will not let you get the older app for those devices any more - Amazon just disables the device from getting the app...

The 4K fire stick is totally worth it, got it when it was $39, at the price it's a no brainer. The regular one is good too, very snappy. I think now Amazon has adapter where you can get hardwired network on it, but I think you may be also able to add a USB port to get more storage.... I never ran out of storage for the record on my 1st gen box/stick and i sideloaded quite a bit...

lead wrote: ↑ do you have the first gen firetv rooted and blocking updates? sounds like it needs the new firmware

vodka wrote: ↑ No, it's stock, and not rooted. I'll give you an example, when I search for Apple TV in the apps it's not there. But with a 4K fire stick, you can get this app.
Basically, if I use my "inlaws" 4K fire stick, with my account, I can get the Apple TV app, then export it, and sideload it on my 1st Gen firetv. I've done this on the Bell Fibe app, which again, was not available to download on either 1st gen fire stick or fire tv...

crappy, as the FTV 1st gen is perfectly capable of 1080P just fine.

EugW wrote: ↑ OK. Good to know. $40 is an excellent price, and even $55 is decent for the 4K.

BTW, the $40 price yesterday on the regular one is gone anyway. It's now back up to $50. No thanks.

According to Camel Camel Camel the 4K's price drops to $55 every 1-3 months, so it should not be a long wait. It even hit $35 once.

lead wrote: ↑ the first gen firetv and the 2nd gen and the first stick and non 4k/basic edition stick all use the same firmware 5.2.7.(2)3. Only The basic edition stick model uses 5.2.7.2 and the rest use 5.2.7.3. I happened to find some with those firmwares and they all downloded and installed apptv. But mine is setup us account.
So maybe check firmware is upto date or its only available in US account? like gemtv,ctv app isn't available under a firetv registered to a us account.

vodka wrote: ↑ No, it's stock, and not rooted. I'll give you an example, when I search for Apple TV in the apps it's not there. But with a 4K fire stick, you can get this app.
Basically, if I use my "inlaws" 4K fire stick, with my account, I can get the Apple TV app, then export it, and sideload it on my 1st Gen firetv. I've done this on the Bell Fibe app, which again, was not available to download on either 1st gen fire stick or fire tv...

crappy, as the FTV 1st gen is perfectly capable of 1080P just fine.

EugW wrote: ↑ Hmmm. I thought I had the first generation Fire TV Stick but I have the Apple TV app installed using the normal install process. No side loading involved.

My remote is the rectangular squat one that websites say is for the first generation. However, I just checked the model number of the device and it is LY73PR, which is actually 2nd generation.


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But it is still slow as hell. So that answers my original question about the speed of the 2nd gen. LOL.

vodka wrote: ↑ Is the location for that FTVstick in the US or in Canada?

EugW wrote: ↑ In Canada. It edited my post above to say that it’s technically a Fire TV Stick Basic Edition.

vodka wrote: ↑ "The Apple TV app is now available for installation on numerous Fire TV and Firestick devices. This includes the Fire TV Stick 4k, Firestick 2nd Gen, and the basic Fire TV model"

Not sure what the basic FireTV model is, there is a Gen1 FireTV and Gen2FireTV (the square flat boxes) - I have the Gen1. I guess you have the Firestick 2nd Gen? In any case, some devices remain blocked I guess...

EugW wrote: ↑ Hmmm. I thought I had the first generation Fire TV Stick but I have the Apple TV app installed using the normal install process. No side loading involved.

My remote is the rectangular squat one that websites say is for the first generation. However, I just checked the model number of the device and it is LY73PR, which is actually 2nd generation. Well not quite. It’s called the Basic Edition.


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But it is still slow as hell. So I guess that answers my original question about the speed of the 2nd gen. LOL.

lead wrote: ↑ hymm my basic edition runs ok. i do not lot load it up with much apps tho and won't touch es file manger or any apps that free memory. they do the opposite eventually. es file manager for fiiretv is just bloatware.

EugW wrote: ↑ I have a 1st generation Fire TV Stick and it works OK for my 720p TV, but the interface is uber slow.

I was looking on Amazon and they state there is a new 2019 Fire TV Stick (not 4K), but that it is 2nd generation.

https://www.amazon.ca/Fire-TV-Stick-wit ... 0791Z1G6W/

Is this just the same 2nd gen model from 2016 but with a new remote?

What about the RAM limitation of 1 GB and storage limitation of 8 GB? I'm thinking both are rather limited, as that's the same as I have for my 1st gen.

If so, is it a waste of time to get this, and should I just get the 4K version instead? That one gets 1.5 GB RAM, but is still stuck with 8 GB storage. If they released a 2 GB model with 16 GB storage and faster SoC in 2020, I'd be all over that.