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Tesla Model 3 is one of the top selling cars right now (right up there with Civic, Camry and Corolla). It's about as American as it comes, with most of the parts being made in Canada and USA.
All of which are made in North America so are 'American' cars. I laugh at people whom buy Toyota/Honda and claim their POS is Japanese, lol.IntrepidRT wrote: ↑ Tesla Model 3 is one of the top selling cars right now (right up there with Civic, Camry and Corolla). It's about as American as it comes, with most of the parts being made in Canada and USA.
If you think there are no corporate culture, LEAN manufacturing and parts quality differences between Japanese and domestic brand manufacturing operations in the US and Canada, you are clearly out to lunch.
Model 3 sold around 115,000 so far in 2019 in USA compared to about 300,000 each for Camry Civic Corolla. So while that's very impressive for an EV, it's not really up there with those 3.IntrepidRT wrote: ↑ Tesla Model 3 is one of the top selling cars right now (right up there with Civic, Camry and Corolla). It's about as American as it comes, with most of the parts being made in Canada and USA.
The Model 3 sedan, the brand's first “affordable” EV, finished the 2018 calendar year as the eighth bestselling car in Canada with a reported 14,750 units sold (only available for last 7 months of the year). 2019 numbers not out yet.aleks wrote: ↑ Model 3 sold around 115,000 so far in 2019 in USA compared to about 300,000 each for Camry Civic Corolla. So while that's very impressive for an EV, it's not really up there with those 3.
Canadian Model 3 sales are around 9,500 so far while Civic and Corolla are close to 50,000 each. Tesla 3 is about 50th best selling vehicle in Canada and about 15th best in USA.
So because a company is Japanese and is no longer manufacturing or designing in Japan and it is done in America, what is that product? Parts and vehicles included... Japanese or Domestic?
Stop making every thread about your car, it's annoying. You come off like a shillIntrepidRT wrote: ↑ The Model 3 sedan, the brand's first “affordable” EV, finished the 2018 calendar year as the eighth bestselling car in Canada with a reported 14,750 units sold (only available for last 7 months of the year). 2019 numbers not out yet.
You are asking mereological questions and debating semantics, I am saying that corporate decision making on every level varies between Japanese and domestic manufacturers. The great majority of evidence supports this position, if you want to argue that all manufacturers that build in Canada are the same the burden of proof rests with you. I'm well aware that Hondas have the most North American parts of any vehicles sold here.
If by car you mean sedan then yeah right now it's ~10th best selling sedan in Canada in first 3 quarters and 50th best selling overall vehicle, but again nowhere near what a Civic or a Corolla would sell in a year.IntrepidRT wrote: ↑ The Model 3 sedan, the brand's first “affordable” EV, finished the 2018 calendar year as the eighth bestselling car in Canada with a reported 14,750 units sold (only available for last 7 months of the year). 2019 numbers not out yet.
Debating semantics? So you think that because all the decisions of design and manufacturing in a north american building/plant, the Japanese thinking or L.E.A.N process has a huge influence from over a NA headquarters? The proof is in the pudding and I don't have to prove it. Honda has had a negative decline in their so called solid reliability. Or is it because domestics are catching up to their counterparts? It's either one or the other.Blubbs wrote: ↑
You are asking mereological questions and debating semantics, I am saying that corporate decision making on every level varies between Japanese and domestic manufacturers. The great majority of evidence supports this position, if you want to argue that all manufacturers that build in Canada are the same the burden of proof rests with you. I'm well aware that Hondas have the most North American parts of any vehicles sold here.
A Japanese make, made in North America, will still be lightyears ahead of your Ford junk. Ford sucked at making cars, so they gave that up! They clearly can't make SUVs or trucks right either, so the whole company needs to be tossed at this point!
