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- 13inches
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- MikoWilson
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- Oct 17, 2009
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You sound like you live in some Dickensian hell-scape, lol. Ontario, is fine. We live in THE most sought after country in the world, with the highest level of "satisfaction" on the planet.some1not wrote: ↑ Wow someone has a grudge for losing his hwy!
But try finding an alternative way to heat or cool your home?
Paying for healthcare?
Or working two or three jobs cause one wont cut it because we're being taxed to death for what the liberals wasted.
We still have other roads to use besides the 407!
My gripe is with politicians who sell off parts of our country to foreign multi-national corporations, especially when we paid for that road in the first place.
If you can't see anything wrong with that, and take ownership of it, what will you take ownership of? Anything? Are Cons these magical creatures to you that do no wrong? lol.
- gospodin
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- Jun 3, 2011
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- rainor94
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- Sep 27, 2008
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Why does the **** is the transponder not a one time charge?
I have an E-ZPass in the car from NY State that cost me $20 for life and that $20 was credited onto my account.
I have an E-ZPass in the car from NY State that cost me $20 for life and that $20 was credited onto my account.
- bylo
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- Jan 7, 2002
- 29710 posts
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- Waterloo, ON
"We" did. But then Mike Harris sold it to private interests in order to raise cash so he wouldn't have to run a deficit. Now those interests have it for 99 years. Some have characterized Mike's move as burning the furniture to heat the house. That works until you burn all the furniture. Then you're back to a cold house--and no furniture.
Speaking of Mike and his uncommonly nonsensical legacy, guess who privatized long term homes in Ontario? Yup. The same Mike. And now many of those who voted for him are paying the cost. With their lives.
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- bylo
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- Jan 7, 2002
- 29710 posts
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- Waterloo, ON
Because in Ontario the toll roads are owned and operated by a private consortium that can set any prices it wants and all the government--of any party--can do is watch the rape in progress.
Actually it's US$25, or at least it is now. And of course even though the 407ETR transponders are compatible with EZPass, they can't be used on each other's toll roads. The 407ETR highway robbers wouldn't want to lose any transponder rental revenue, eh?I have an E-ZPass in the car from NY State that cost me $20 for life and that $20 was credited onto my account.
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- some1not
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- Jan 27, 2011
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MikoWilson wrote: ↑ You sound like you live in some Dickensian hell-scape, lol. Ontario, is fine. We live in THE most sought after country in the world, with the highest level of "satisfaction" on the planet.
My gripe is with politicians who sell off parts of our country to foreign multi-national corporations, especially when we paid for that road in the first place.
If you can't see anything wrong with that, and take ownership of it, what will you take ownership of? Anything? Are Cons these magical creatures to you that do no wrong? lol.
Hell no, I was pissed when the 407 was sold off. It was a toll hyw anyways. If the government have kept it we would all be complaining on the same thing. High toll prices when our tax dollars build it! LOL.
But like I said, I can still use other roads/hyw. What I can't do is use other hydro companies or even go completely off grid!
- bylo
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- Jan 7, 2002
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- Waterloo, ON
Perhaps we'd still be complaining. But at least those "$billions and $billions" in profits would be flowing back into provincial coffers where they might get used for our benefit rather than into the greedy hands of a bunch of overseas fat cats.
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- Samshares
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- May 29, 2017
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- Canada
Charging for transponder is the biggest way they rob us.
Knowing the transponder helps them simplify their billing and save them ton of money rather than have to audit video feeds to bill people.
I also heard that out of province drivers have gotten away with no bills. So they grill Ontarians to the core.....
They don't have any power to block their license renewals and all outside of Ontario.
Knowing the transponder helps them simplify their billing and save them ton of money rather than have to audit video feeds to bill people.
I also heard that out of province drivers have gotten away with no bills. So they grill Ontarians to the core.....
They don't have any power to block their license renewals and all outside of Ontario.
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- MikoWilson
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- Oct 17, 2009
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The 407 was a toll highway, yes, but now we are being charged roughly 8X what the toll used to be, even though we put limits in place to stop that sort of inflation.some1not wrote: ↑ Hell no, I was pissed when the 407 was sold off. It was a toll hyw anyways. If the government have kept it we would all be complaining on the same thing. High toll prices when our tax dollars build it! LOL.
But like I said, I can still use other roads/hyw. What I can't do is use other hydro companies or even go completely off grid!
So what do we have now? We have a highway, that we built, sold to a foreign multinational for pennies on the dollar -- that our great,great, great grandchildren will be cursed with.
Yeah, you pretty much can go off grid these days. At the very least, we can build new power plants which provide cheaper energy.
What we can't do is get out of this boondoggle of a contract.
- bylo
- Deal Expert
- Jan 7, 2002
- 29710 posts
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- Waterloo, ON
We could refuse to drive on it. (Unless of course there's something in the contract that guarantees the owners some minimum amount of revenue. Given what else is buried in there that wouldn't be a big surprise.)MikoWilson wrote: ↑What we can't do is get out of this boondoggle of a contract.
Boycotting might even work during the pandemic when the other 400-series roads aren't that busy. But could we hold to that boycott after things start returning towards the new normal? If we could do that then perhaps that would give the greedy highway robbers pause to consider toll reductions.
Yeah, I know. I'm dreaming in 3D 8K Technicolor.
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