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5 GHz and 2.4 GHz WiFi combination

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5 GHz and 2.4 GHz WiFi combination

I wonder if anyone has suggestions on how to achieve the following, if it's even possible. I have a dual band UniFi access point. I prefer to use the 5 GHz band whenever possible with dual-band devices like phones and tablets. At the same power the 2.4 GHz band has longer reach, naturally. What I want is my phone, tablet etc. to be on a 5 GHz inside the house but switch to a 2.4 GHz band in the corner of my backyard where it loses the connection on the 5 GHz band.

I tried band steering but it doesn't work. If you read about it, band steering is a trick that access points use to convince devices to connect to a certain band preferentially but it's purely up to the devices to choose the AP they connect to. So, my devices always prefer the 2.4 GHz band. Some suggest to lower the power of the 2.4 GHz AP but then it won't reach the corner of the backyard, there is no point in doing this.

I use different SSIDs for the two bands and put my 5 GHz devices on the 5 GHz band. Once I add the 2.4 GHz AP to the settings they prefer to connect to it which is undesirable. Only my newest device is able to remember an AP that I can disable and re-enable when I need. Other devices either remember APs and connect to them at will or the only other option is to forget them.

What can I do to stay on 5 GHz and move to 2.4 GHz only when 5 GHz becomes very weak?
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Try using the same SSID for both networks. This might encourage client devices to pick bands more effectively, depending on how the clients' wifi stacks are implemented.

Beyond that, there's nothing else you can do. Band selection is at the discretion of the client devices and the AP's band steering implementation.

What do you want to accomplish by preferentially directing devices onto the 5 GHz band? Residential use cases where 5GHz preference makes sense are fairly niche. Unless you need more speed than 2.4 GHz can offer, or 2.4 Ghz is too congested to be usable, there's no point in putting too much effort into this.
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middleofnowhere wrote: Try using the same SSID for both networks. This might encourage client devices to pick bands more effectively, depending on how the clients' wifi stacks are implemented.
I tried that.
middleofnowhere wrote: Beyond that, there's nothing else you can do. Band selection is at the discretion of the client devices and the AP's band steering implementation.

What do you want to accomplish by preferentially directing devices onto the 5 GHz band? Residential use cases where 5GHz preference makes sense are fairly niche. Unless you need more speed than 2.4 GHz can offer, or 2.4 Ghz is too congested to be usable, there's no point in putting too much effort into this.
I am not sure how it is niche because it's both - congestion and low speed on 2.4. Neighbors using 40 MHz channel bandwidth and/or overlapping channels.
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alpovs wrote: I am not sure how it is niche because it's both - congestion and low speed on 2.4. Neighbors using 40 MHz channel bandwidth and/or overlapping channels.
In that case, not many good options. Just to throw a few ideas out:
  • Talk to your neighbors about a channel management plan for 2.4 GHz so everyone benefits.
  • Try buying a different access point. Enterprise-level gear (Rukus, Cisco, HP/Aruba, etc) may have more aggressive band steering algorithms but this kind of hardware does not come cheap.
  • Use a separate SSID for 2.4 GHz and remove this SSID from devices that don't need to use 2.4 GHz.
  • Hardwire devices wherever possible. This will both increase throughput for hardwired devices and reduce wifi contention for remaining wifi devices.
  • Consider re-painting the inside surface of your exterior walls with conductive paint to reduce external wifi interference. Note that this will also block cell phone service indoors.

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