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78 MPG BMW 3series.....Wow!

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78 MPG BMW 3series.....Wow!

Why can't we get these here?

BMW 320d - 78 mpg highway, 69 mpg combined!

Here's the story

http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/Fir ... cs/242759/

Here are the specs

http://www.autocar.co.uk/SpecsPrices/Sp ... ics/58414/

In the UK it's priced at $27000 pounds on the road! . . . Including a 19% vat!

Where do I sign?

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When it gets here they're gonna mark it up so bad that your gas savings won't cover the cost premium over a regular model.
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malecoke wrote: When it gets here they're gonna mark it up so bad that your gas savings won't cover the cost premium over a regular model.

No kidding. In Europe gas and diesel versions of the same car are virtually the same price, where here they are typically $2,000-$5,000 more and there are very few choices.

Plus on a 3, the only diesel option is on the 335, in 4 door, auto and rear wheel drive only, then they wonder why they don't sell very well.

The 323i and 328xi are the best selling 3's, so why wouldn't they bring in equivalent diesel versions? Then they would see how well they sell.

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malecoke wrote: When it gets here they're gonna mark it up so bad that your gas savings won't cover the cost premium over a regular model.

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Years ago I've heard of the diesel hybrid techology that they are testing in Detroit in some courier trucks, still looking forward to that, not happening... Last time I went to Detroit auto show, hydrogen Honda car :) still not happening anytime soon, at least I can't find a hydrogen pump anywhere in GTA...

**** the government, I'll never buy a hybrid when it's only giving me VW TDI milage, however higher cost for the car plus maintance. What I am really waiting for, still not happening... Face it, if you can't find a super battery in the past 50 years it's not going to happen anytime soon :razz: So electric car and even worse the hybrid are just junks, and I am not paying for it, no fking way! :facepalm:
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defencerulez wrote: Years ago I've heard of the diesel hybrid techology that they are testing in Detroit in some courier trucks, still looking forward to that, not happening... Last time I went to Detroit auto show, hydrogen Honda car :) still not happening anytime soon, at least I can't find a hydrogen pump anywhere in GTA...

**** the government, I'll never buy a hybrid when it's only giving me VW TDI milage, however higher cost for the car plus maintance. What I am really waiting for, still not happening... Face it, if you can't find a super battery in the past 50 years it's not going to happen anytime soon :razz: So electric car and even worse the hybrid are just junks, and I am not paying for it, no fking way! :facepalm:

agreed.
now if the chevy volt was a diesel generator, now that would have made car of the century.

if everyone used diesel, or even bio-diesel, imagine what the air will be like. diesel = great mileage, but bad pollution, not a good long term solution.

hydrogen power would be nice, only downside with everyone using that, means less sunny days, more rain. better than polluted air.
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jason9945 wrote: Thats 69mpg combined UK.... which is like 57MPG US. Still awesome though!

Don't see your point, since we live in Canada and our gallon is the same size as the UK.
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CCCPres wrote: No kidding. In Europe gas and diesel versions of the same car are virtually the same price, where here they are typically $2,000-$5,000 more and there are very few choices.

Plus on a 3, the only diesel option is on the 335, in 4 door, auto and rear wheel drive only, then they wonder why they don't sell very well.

The 323i and 328xi are the best selling 3's, so why wouldn't they bring in equivalent diesel versions? Then they would see how well they sell.

Later, CCCPres

It's because BMW, VW, etc. see the North American market as one. So basically, because we live close to a bunch of hillbillies who love their guns and trucks we're being penalized while every second schmuck in Europe drives a diesel. Canada has always sold a lot more compacts than the US so it's only natural that we get the same options available to Europeans.
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JAC wrote: Don't see your point, since we live in Canada and our gallon is the same size as the UK.

Yes, our gallon (imperial gallon/4.54l) is the same size as the UK, but the mileage numbers are based on US gallons (3.78l) since it's US EPA mileage we're using/being quoted on the sticker.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned that they won't/can't drive anything less than a v8/300bhp, etc, etc. Sort of like that stupid truck commercial about ordering engines from the kiddie menu. :rolleyes:

I'd be happy to see a diesel from anyone besides VW and higher-end MB. At ~C$28k, this 320d would take over the mid-size market.
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JAC wrote: Don't see your point, since we live in Canada and our gallon is the same size as the UK.
rf134a wrote: Yes, our gallon (imperial gallon/4.54l) is the same size as the UK, but the mileage numbers are based on US gallons (3.78l) since it's US EPA mileage we're using/being quoted on the sticker.

Well a lot of people still use US MPG for comparison and we still have a lot of exposure to American advertising here in Canada. Would you rather buy a Corolla that gets 30mpg, 36mpg or, 7.8L/100 km.

Once I saw a car dealer in Ottawa advertising that a small car got 70km per gallon :facepalm:
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rf134a wrote: Yes, our gallon (imperial gallon/4.54l) is the same size as the UK, but the mileage numbers are based on US gallons (3.78l) since it's US EPA mileage we're using/being quoted on the sticker.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned that they won't/can't drive anything less than a v8/300bhp, etc, etc. Sort of like that stupid truck commercial about ordering engines from the kiddie menu. :rolleyes:

I'd be happy to see a diesel from anyone besides VW and higher-end MB. At ~C$28k, this 320d would take over the mid-size market.

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