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80/20 ground chuck not available?

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80/20 ground chuck not available?

so I saw a YouTube video about smash burgers and the guy is from Canada .. apparently you can't get 80/20 ground beef in Canadian grocery stores but he knows a butcher who herds steer

just curious why this is ...seems odd
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Not sure what you mean? Grocery store "ground beef" is all the bits and pieces they cut off all the other parts of the cow in order to make it look appealing. They throw all the crap odds and ends into a bucket, grind it and call it ground beef.
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Sounds like a translation issue. The US and Canada have different names for cuts and grading etc..

Based on tthis, 80/20 ground beef would be medium ground beef.

As for ground chuck, you can always buy something from the shoulder (ie, blade roast) and ask the butcher the grind it for you, although I'm not sure if that would get you the correct ratio of fat to meat.
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The__Rock wrote: Not sure what you mean? Grocery store "ground beef" is all the bits and pieces they cut off all the other parts of the cow in order to make it look appealing. They throw all the crap odds and ends into a bucket, grind it and call it ground beef.


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80/20 just defines the fat ratio. As @Zewo said, the closest thing we have is probably medium but that's quite a bit harder to find since most places are either regular or extra lean nowadays.

Not that I've been to the US in a while, but I don't think they call it 80/20 there either. I'm fairly certain that they also use a regular/lean/etc but they also have things like ground chuck which technically would be pretty close to 80/20. Just not labelled as such but as ground chuck. Ground sirloin for example would be much leaner and another thing that's available.

@Zewo is actually correct with the chuck thing too. If you can find a butcher that'll do grinding, chuck is about as close as you can get to 80/20.
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death_hawk wrote: 80/20 just defines the fat ratio. As @Zewo said, the closest thing we have is probably medium but that's quite a bit harder to find since most places are either regular or extra lean nowadays.

Not that I've been to the US in a while, but I don't think they call it 80/20 there either. I'm fairly certain that they also use a regular/lean/etc but they also have things like ground chuck which technically would be pretty close to 80/20. Just not labelled as such but as ground chuck. Ground sirloin for example would be much leaner and another thing that's available.

@Zewo is actually correct with the chuck thing too. If you can find a butcher that'll do grinding, chuck is about as close as you can get to 80/20.
ya just wondered why it wasn't a "thing" in Canada ... anyway tks for the reply
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death_hawk wrote: 80/20 just defines the fat ratio. As @Zewo said, the closest thing we have is probably medium but that's quite a bit harder to find since most places are either regular or extra lean nowadays.

Not that I've been to the US in a while, but I don't think they call it 80/20 there either. I'm fairly certain that they also use a regular/lean/etc but they also have things like ground chuck which technically would be pretty close to 80/20. Just not labelled as such but as ground chuck. Ground sirloin for example would be much leaner and another thing that's available.

@Zewo is actually correct with the chuck thing too. If you can find a butcher that'll do grinding, chuck is about as close as you can get to 80/20.
These may have been a little more than 80/20?

Regardless, they were delicious.
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Gutty96 wrote: These may have been a little more than 80/20?

Regardless, they were delicious.
looks good
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As others have said 80/20 is simply a ratio of meat to fat closest to medium ground.
I think ground chuck is usually mentioned because this cut naturally/closely composes this ratio.
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JinP10907 wrote: ya just wondered why it wasn't a "thing" in Canada ... anyway tks for the reply
Go to a reputable butcher and have them grind a piece of chuck for you; they will easily be able to provide an 80/20 mix.
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Sobeys sells ground chuck burgers
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blexann wrote: Sobeys sells ground chuck burgers
So does Foodland if you know to ask.

That's where the grind came from in my picture above.
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Gutty96 wrote: So does Foodland if you know to ask.

That's where the grind came from in my picture above.
Nice, makes sense because Sobeys owns Foodland
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blexann wrote: Nice, makes sense because Sobeys owns Foodland
Yup. They are currently build a new Sobeys right beside our current ( very small and old Foodland) and hopefully the butcher and deli dept employees carry over. I am not shy, so I ask for what I want, and they always have treated me well. Close to butcher shop level at times.
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Anyone else get completely turned off by the use of "chuck" to refer to ground beef? Is there a difference or just regional dialect? I equally dislike 'hamburger' when referring to ground beef as well (I think this is more of an American thing).
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hierophant wrote: Anyone else get completely turned off by the use of "chuck" to refer to ground beef? Is there a difference or just regional dialect? I equally dislike 'hamburger' when referring to ground beef as well (I think this is more of an American thing).
Not even remotely.
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hierophant wrote: Anyone else get completely turned off by the use of "chuck" to refer to ground beef? Is there a difference or just regional dialect?
Technically yes because ground chuck can be ground beef but ground beef can't be ground chuck.
If I'm buying ground chuck and it turns out I'm getting ground round I'm gonna be pissed.
I equally dislike 'hamburger' when referring to ground beef as well (I think this is more of an American thing).
It is mildly weird.
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death_hawk wrote: Technically yes because ground chuck can be ground beef but ground beef can't be ground chuck.

Ah ok - I didn't know this. Thanks. I wish another word other than chuck was used though lol ...to me the word chuck is something you want to 'chuck' out (i.e., garbage) so I find it off putting.
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Terminology.

Agree with what someone said about requesting a specific cut.
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