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$900 in fines when trying to renew plate

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$900 in fines when trying to renew plate

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I went to renew my plates and there's $900 in fines. They won't tell me what they are. I literally had this car for 8 months and I've been the only driver. I gotten no tickets. The car's parked most days due to COVID.

Do I have any other option other than to pay it? It's silly every year I go to renew plates and I get charged hundreds by somebody (worker) who doesn't give a flying ****.
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chinaboy1021 wrote: Hi guys

I went to renew my plates and there's $900 in fines. They won't tell me what they are. I literally had this car for 8 months and I've been the only driver. I gotten no tickets. The car's parked most days due to COVID.

Do I have any other option other than to pay it? It's silly every year I go to renew plates and I get charged hundreds by somebody (worker) who doesn't give a flying ****.
Tickets don't go against the car, it goes against the plates.
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Where do you keep it parked...? On the street?
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Pretty sure they have to tell you what they are lol. Typically either parking tickets or 407 bills. However other unpaid offences on the licence of the owner of the car are applicable as well. For example if you are somehow not the registered owner of the car and that person got speeding tickets, etc. they never paid, the plate sticker can't be renewed until paid. Edit: Sorry apparently only select tickets to the driver, can affect sticker renewal. I don't think speeding is included but apparently failing to stop for a school bus is?

My guess is 407/toll bill, to be that high, if you are the owner of the car and don't recall getting any driving infractions or seeing any parking tickets. Could be that someone somehow copied your plate or something and ran on the 407 thereby footing you the bill, either that or you used the 407 yourself and didn't pay for it. Also if someone else was using a transponder tied to your name/407 account--all the same.

Apart from that it could be unpaid fines which just kept climbing by way of not paying, getting convicted in absentia, and then getting late fees tacked on and possibly also getting your licence unknowingly suspended, depending on the conviction. Have them check your DL for unpaid fines or outstanding convictions (which they should have done).

IIRC you can also get screwed for having unpaid child support (?) though I think that's only on your DL not your plates, and $900 seems too low an amount in that case.
BeaverLiquor wrote: Tickets don't go against the car, it goes against the plates.
Oh yeah this too, if you transferred the plates from another car and had outstanding parking tickets on that previous car, would be the same thing.
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chinaboy1021 wrote: Hi guys

I went to renew my plates and there's $900 in fines. They won't tell me what they are. I literally had this car for 8 months and I've been the only driver. I gotten no tickets. The car's parked most days due to COVID.

Do I have any other option other than to pay it? It's silly every year I go to renew plates and I get charged hundreds by somebody (worker) who doesn't give a flying ****.
You must pay it.
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I don't get it. They say you owe 900$, they are not telling why where is that $900 comes from and you also have no idea....

407 bills? parking tickets?

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chinaboy1021 wrote: Hi guys

I went to renew my plates and there's $900 in fines. They won't tell me what they are. I literally had this car for 8 months and I've been the only driver. I gotten no tickets. The car's parked most days due to COVID.

Do I have any other option other than to pay it? It's silly every year I go to renew plates and I get charged hundreds by somebody (worker) who doesn't give a flying ****.
transfer the car to a business and register it
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DeletedMemories wrote: transfer the car to a business and register it
So what will that do? Prevent him from ever having his own plates attached to a personal car again? dumb reply

If they are 407 toll charges the interest charged is 26.82%
https://407etr.com/en/help/general/faq- ... faq71.html
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chinaboy1021 wrote: Hi guys

I went to renew my plates and there's $900 in fines. They won't tell me what they are. I literally had this car for 8 months and I've been the only driver. I gotten no tickets. The car's parked most days due to COVID.

Do I have any other option other than to pay it? It's silly every year I go to renew plates and I get charged hundreds by somebody (worker) who doesn't give a flying ****.
Every year you have fines on your renewal? They do have to to tell you. This smells of a troll.
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engineered wrote: Every year you have fines on your renewal? They do have to to tell you. This smells of a troll.
His story makes absolutely no sense- if he is a troll, I honestly do not understand what he gets out of trolling? What's the point of starting a fake and moronic thread?
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bear20 wrote: 26.82% interest?! That’s even worse than credit cards. Literally highway robbery.
This!! Holy shyte thats insane!

Thanks Mike Harris. Still effing us over 2 decades later.
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hierophant wrote: His story makes absolutely no sense- if he is a troll, I honestly do not understand what he gets out of trolling? What's the point of starting a fake and moronic thread?
It's not as bad as giving out Thumbs Down on threads but I guess it brings excitement to their lives. lol

Who knows.
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engineered wrote: Every year you have fines on your renewal? They do have to to tell you. This smells of a troll.
It does sound like a troll post, but, I'm gonna give the benefit of the doubt (just a wee little) only because OP's been a member since 2003 & has over 2800 posts.

Why would they not tell him what the charges are for? I'd be reluctant to pay as well if they can't answer a simple question like that. My guess too would be 407 bills.
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What does a private company (407) have anything to do with government renewing plates? What do they get out of it? Private fines (impark or 407) shouldn't have anything to do with ability to renew, unless the government is still getting something out of 407 tolls.

if a private entity like owners of 407 wants to recoup the money, they should need to go through collection or court (like any private parking enforcing company which you can safely ignore all their tickets).
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Me262A1 wrote: What does a private company (407) have anything to do with government renewing plates? What do they get out of it? Private fines (impark or 407) shouldn't have anything to do with ability to renew, unless the government is still getting something out of 407 tolls.

if a private entity like owners of 407 wants to recoup the money, they should need to go through collection or court (like any private parking enforcing company which you can safely ignore all their tickets).
You can ask Mike Harris that. That dumb ass. I still feel that there IS a shady backroom deal somewhere with money in an off-shore account. I don't know how anyone could be that daft to make a deal like that, just to cook the books.
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Me262A1 wrote: What does a private company (407) have anything to do with government renewing plates? What do they get out of it? Private fines (impark or 407) shouldn't have anything to do with ability to renew, unless the government is still getting something out of 407 tolls.

if a private entity like owners of 407 wants to recoup the money, they should need to go through collection or court (like any private parking enforcing company which you can safely ignore all their tickets).
The 407 ETR is not 100% privately owned
CPP (Canadian Pension Plan) and OMERS (Ontario Municipal Employees Retirement System)

CPPIB (Canadian Pension Plan Investment Board) controls a 50.01% stake in 407 International.
https://www.cppinvestments.com/public-m ... tional-inc

The Canada Pension Plan Investment Board, operating as CPP Investments, is a Canadian Crown corporation established by way of the 1997 Canada Pension Plan Investment Board Act
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Me262A1 wrote: What does a private company (407) have anything to do with government renewing plates? What do they get out of it? Private fines (impark or 407) shouldn't have anything to do with ability to renew, unless the government is still getting something out of 407 tolls.

if a private entity like owners of 407 wants to recoup the money, they should need to go through collection or court (like any private parking enforcing company which you can safely ignore all their tickets).
Mike Harris gave a sweetheart deal to the entity who bought the 407 with multiple provisions so it doesn't lose money (see wikipedia for details). One of them is that they can suspend your license for unpaid 407 bills.

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